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Pesticides are bad. Government officials are trading increased cancer rates for higher profit margins. How that can ever be acceptable is beyond me.

bigyikes 3y ago
Pesticides allow millions of people to not starve to death. A generalized statement like "Pesticides are bad" is simply ridiculous.
- jagtstronaut 3y ago
  On top of that, pesticide application and environmental effects are the dangers of pesticide application, not human consumption. Most pesticides are just CO2 by the time they get to the shelf and ALL pesticide residues that don’t become co2 must be verifiably 100% safe for people to eat.
  - mistercheph 3y ago
    More great food science from the folks that brought you aspartame, hydrogenated vegetable oils, red-40, and canola oil as the healthy alternative to eggs, dairy, fruits, vegetables and meat
- alistairSH 3y ago
  We’re talking about farm raised salmon. It’s a luxury good, not a staple food source.
  - dahdum 3y ago
    99% of supermarket SKUs are luxury items, at least salmon is one the healthiest choices you can make.
    - ClumsyPilot 3y ago
      I am sorry, where do you shop? Half of my local Tescos is essentials like potatoes, chicken and canned beans.
  - thsksbd 3y ago
    What makes salmon a luxury goods? Its very affordable within the space of non-processed foods and healthy. Heck it compares with processed foods! I went to "www.webstaurantstore.com" (?) and compared salmon to a cheap mass produced ham (that is both are animal protein). $10/lb for salmon vs $8/lb for the ham. Hardly a huge difference, but one is very processed with lots of salt and nitrates.
    - missedthecue 3y ago
      lb for lb, it would not surprise me to learn that farmed fish has a lower all-in pollution output than pork.
    - riku_iki 3y ago
      > $10/lb for salmon vs $8/lb for the ham you can find $2/lb ham, but you can't find salmon for that price. lb/$10 will be transformed into something like 300g after cooking process, and for person with minimum wage, it means he needs to work for 1h after taxes to get 300g of product, this is like pre-industrial level of productivity and income.. And there are people outside US with even lower wages.
      - thsksbd 3y ago
        All that means is that US wages are too low. But, be they what they are: - 300 grams is not a bad serving. - for the folks on minimum wage, its only 12% of their income which Im not sure if its a bad ratio historically. - "man does not live on bread alone" ie, you can't eat cheap ham everyday, nor should salmon be a daily staple. But variety of food is a necesity, not a luxury. - ham at $2/lb sounds disgusting and probably causes more health problems (nitrates) than just eliminating animal protein. - My wife used to live on minimum wage with no external help padding her income. She still ate a serving of fresh salmon every week. Im sorry, but if farmed salmon is a luxury, as a society our standards of living have collapsed.
        riku_iki 3y ago
        > Im sorry, but if farmed salmon is a luxury, as a society our standards of living have collapsed. yes, in the last two decades wealth gap became larger, and poor became poorer.
- octacat 3y ago
  nah, in this case lobbying "pesticides" is done to pack even more fish in the hellish conditions. Which is bad because it increases chances to get some new viruses/bacterias. Alternatively, it is to fight new infections which are already "bullet-prooffed" against the old amount of pesticides.
- birksherty 3y ago
  It is bad. Only one species destroying ecosystem all other species, does not matter if only one species got benefit. Period. Humans thinking, they own Earth and can do whatever they want even if it kills everything else can never be regarded as good.
WHGANDNORAHG 3y ago
This smacks of conspiracy, & is unfounded.

bigyikes 3y ago

Pesticides allow millions of people to not starve to death. A generalized statement like "Pesticides are bad" is simply ridiculous.

jagtstronaut 3y ago
On top of that, pesticide application and environmental effects are the dangers of pesticide application, not human consumption. Most pesticides are just CO2 by the time they get to the shelf and ALL pesticide residues that don’t become co2 must be verifiably 100% safe for people to eat.
- mistercheph 3y ago
  More great food science from the folks that brought you aspartame, hydrogenated vegetable oils, red-40, and canola oil as the healthy alternative to eggs, dairy, fruits, vegetables and meat
alistairSH 3y ago
We’re talking about farm raised salmon. It’s a luxury good, not a staple food source.
- dahdum 3y ago
  99% of supermarket SKUs are luxury items, at least salmon is one the healthiest choices you can make.
  - ClumsyPilot 3y ago
    I am sorry, where do you shop? Half of my local Tescos is essentials like potatoes, chicken and canned beans.
- thsksbd 3y ago
  What makes salmon a luxury goods? Its very affordable within the space of non-processed foods and healthy. Heck it compares with processed foods! I went to "www.webstaurantstore.com" (?) and compared salmon to a cheap mass produced ham (that is both are animal protein). $10/lb for salmon vs $8/lb for the ham. Hardly a huge difference, but one is very processed with lots of salt and nitrates.
  - missedthecue 3y ago
    lb for lb, it would not surprise me to learn that farmed fish has a lower all-in pollution output than pork.
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    > $10/lb for salmon vs $8/lb for the ham you can find $2/lb ham, but you can't find salmon for that price. lb/$10 will be transformed into something like 300g after cooking process, and for person with minimum wage, it means he needs to work for 1h after taxes to get 300g of product, this is like pre-industrial level of productivity and income.. And there are people outside US with even lower wages.
    - thsksbd 3y ago
      All that means is that US wages are too low. But, be they what they are: - 300 grams is not a bad serving. - for the folks on minimum wage, its only 12% of their income which Im not sure if its a bad ratio historically. - "man does not live on bread alone" ie, you can't eat cheap ham everyday, nor should salmon be a daily staple. But variety of food is a necesity, not a luxury. - ham at $2/lb sounds disgusting and probably causes more health problems (nitrates) than just eliminating animal protein. - My wife used to live on minimum wage with no external help padding her income. She still ate a serving of fresh salmon every week. Im sorry, but if farmed salmon is a luxury, as a society our standards of living have collapsed.
      - riku_iki 3y ago
        > Im sorry, but if farmed salmon is a luxury, as a society our standards of living have collapsed. yes, in the last two decades wealth gap became larger, and poor became poorer.
octacat 3y ago
nah, in this case lobbying "pesticides" is done to pack even more fish in the hellish conditions. Which is bad because it increases chances to get some new viruses/bacterias. Alternatively, it is to fight new infections which are already "bullet-prooffed" against the old amount of pesticides.
birksherty 3y ago
It is bad. Only one species destroying ecosystem all other species, does not matter if only one species got benefit. Period. Humans thinking, they own Earth and can do whatever they want even if it kills everything else can never be regarded as good.

WHGANDNORAHG 3y ago

This smacks of conspiracy, & is unfounded.