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Those climate protesters who tried to blockade the entrance are probably laughing now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8fDM60MS84 https://www.youtube.com/watch

by p1mrx 3y ago

Those climate protesters who tried to blockade the entrance are probably laughing now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8fDM60MS84 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8fDM60MS84 (Though it seems unlikely that a particular rainstorm could be attributed to climate change.)

wingworks 3y ago
I watched the vid, idk how I feel now. The protestors appear to have been illegally protesting. I really know nothing about it apart from what was in the vid. Having said that, the/some people going to Burning Man, didn't seem like very nice people either. I get that blocking the road isn't cool at the best of times, but feel this could've been handled better. I'm not from the US, so had no clue who Rangers are (are they like police?). To me, at first they looked like hire a cop from the festival. While it looked like the first Ranger truck started a dialog, another decided to go a more violent route. There are a few cuts in the vid there, so it's not clear how long dialog was tried or what happened during that time and how justified the violent end was. Coming from a country where police are generally pretty chill unless really provoked, how this was ended seemed extreme to me. The comments in the vid kinda scare me tbh. It'll all fun and games, till you're at the receiving end, or someone dies.
- zerbinxx 3y ago
  Rangers are basically “the cops” of BLM land, so if there’s an issue they’re the ones who will show up. In general these guys do the best with what they’ve got and they probably hate BM and all the hassle it brings. A normal weekend in rural Nevada requires maybe a call about a rancher’s lost livestock or a normal patrol route. These guys are certainly ill equipped to handle 70k outsiders showing up for a week, and particularly not well equipped for settling interpersonal/ideological disputes elegantly. I think their “ram down the barricade” strategy is pretty parsimonious given the time and tools they have to deal with protests and angry travelers.
  - wingworks 3y ago
    Aaah, thanks for explaining. Yeah can imagine they're not fans of the yearly event and the hassle it brings.
  - standardUser 3y ago
    Burning Man has been happening there for 30 years. I find it impossible to believe they are "ill equipped to handle 70k outsiders showing up for a week".
  - trogdor 3y ago
    I have met many BLM Rangers at Burning Man. Nearly all were super-into the event, and many had specifically requested the assignment.
    - jrochkind1 3y ago
      Just to clarify * Bureau of Land Management law enforcement rangers https://www.blm.gov/programs/law-enforcement/what-we-do https://www.blm.gov/programs/law-enforcement/what-we-do are not the same thing as * Black Rock Rangers, a self-organized volunteer safety team of Burners https://burningman.org/event/participate/volunteering/teams/brc-rangers/ https://burningman.org/event/participate/volunteering/teams/... And neither are the same thing as Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribal Police, which others have said is who is featured in the video. I have no idea. But the uniforms of the three different entities probably don't look much alike.
  - philwelch 3y ago
    The rangers in the video are actually a tribal police department.
- philwelch 3y ago
  Those aren’t BLM rangers; they’re the law enforcement of the Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribe.
- freejazz 3y ago
  illegally protesting gasps!
  - 93po 3y ago
    America has never protested or done anything illegal. It was peacefully formed after they hugged it out with England.
riezebos 3y ago
There is a peer-reviewed method to attribute extreme events to climate change. It was used successfully to attribute some heat waves and floods in Europe this year to climate change: https://ascmo.copernicus.org/articles/6/177/2020/ascmo-6-177-2020.html https://ascmo.copernicus.org/articles/6/177/2020/ascmo-6-177...
rasz 3y ago
Huge traffic jam full of Trucks that never ever drove off the road. Only few truck drivers deciding supremely risky move of driving on flat grassy shoulder.
93po 3y ago
Pretty disappointing how big of a jerk that one burner guy appears to be, including physically intimidating behavior. I don't know much about BM ethos but this is not the sort of person I want to be spending time around
- fuckyourprotest 3y ago
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by p1mrx 3y ago

wingworks 3y ago

I watched the vid, idk how I feel now. The protestors appear to have been illegally protesting. I really know nothing about it apart from what was in the vid. Having said that, the/some people going to Burning Man, didn't seem like very nice people either. I get that blocking the road isn't cool at the best of times, but feel this could've been handled better. I'm not from the US, so had no clue who Rangers are (are they like police?). To me, at first they looked like hire a cop from the festival. While it looked like the first Ranger truck started a dialog, another decided to go a more violent route. There are a few cuts in the vid there, so it's not clear how long dialog was tried or what happened during that time and how justified the violent end was. Coming from a country where police are generally pretty chill unless really provoked, how this was ended seemed extreme to me. The comments in the vid kinda scare me tbh. It'll all fun and games, till you're at the receiving end, or someone dies.

zerbinxx 3y ago
Rangers are basically “the cops” of BLM land, so if there’s an issue they’re the ones who will show up. In general these guys do the best with what they’ve got and they probably hate BM and all the hassle it brings. A normal weekend in rural Nevada requires maybe a call about a rancher’s lost livestock or a normal patrol route. These guys are certainly ill equipped to handle 70k outsiders showing up for a week, and particularly not well equipped for settling interpersonal/ideological disputes elegantly. I think their “ram down the barricade” strategy is pretty parsimonious given the time and tools they have to deal with protests and angry travelers.
- wingworks 3y ago
  Aaah, thanks for explaining. Yeah can imagine they're not fans of the yearly event and the hassle it brings.
- standardUser 3y ago
  Burning Man has been happening there for 30 years. I find it impossible to believe they are "ill equipped to handle 70k outsiders showing up for a week".
- trogdor 3y ago
  I have met many BLM Rangers at Burning Man. Nearly all were super-into the event, and many had specifically requested the assignment.
  - jrochkind1 3y ago
    Just to clarify * Bureau of Land Management law enforcement rangers https://www.blm.gov/programs/law-enforcement/what-we-do https://www.blm.gov/programs/law-enforcement/what-we-do are not the same thing as * Black Rock Rangers, a self-organized volunteer safety team of Burners https://burningman.org/event/participate/volunteering/teams/brc-rangers/ https://burningman.org/event/participate/volunteering/teams/... And neither are the same thing as Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribal Police, which others have said is who is featured in the video. I have no idea. But the uniforms of the three different entities probably don't look much alike.
- philwelch 3y ago
  The rangers in the video are actually a tribal police department.
philwelch 3y ago
Those aren’t BLM rangers; they’re the law enforcement of the Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribe.
freejazz 3y ago
illegally protesting gasps!
- 93po 3y ago
  America has never protested or done anything illegal. It was peacefully formed after they hugged it out with England.

riezebos 3y ago

There is a peer-reviewed method to attribute extreme events to climate change. It was used successfully to attribute some heat waves and floods in Europe this year to climate change: https://ascmo.copernicus.org/articles/6/177/2020/ascmo-6-177-2020.html https://ascmo.copernicus.org/articles/6/177/2020/ascmo-6-177...

rasz 3y ago

Huge traffic jam full of Trucks that never ever drove off the road. Only few truck drivers deciding supremely risky move of driving on flat grassy shoulder.

93po 3y ago

Pretty disappointing how big of a jerk that one burner guy appears to be, including physically intimidating behavior. I don't know much about BM ethos but this is not the sort of person I want to be spending time around

fuckyourprotest 3y ago
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