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Yeah but in this case your UPS causes tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths a year and lots of knock on effects like cops always having to worry about a suspe
by camgunz 3y ago
Yeah but in this case your UPS causes tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths a year and lots of knock on effects like cops always having to worry about a suspect being armed to the teeth, metal detectors in schools, etc.
> It will be a slow boil until we realize we're in a seriously corrupt and unrepresentative state that can only be fixed through force.
There's no evidence this is happening, certainly not to the degree we should suffer the current level of gun violence to combat.
- seanw444 3y agoAll of those things will happen whether we ban legal ownership of firearms or not. Metal detectors in school can still come in handy for things like knives, unless you intend to ban those too. Way more people die from car accidents and drug overdoses, and those numbers don't have millions of legal self defense encounters to balance them out. Cops will always be concerned about their safety. You can kill someone if you simply gain physical control over them. An unarmed person charging you is just as dangerous as an armed one, in terms of use-of-force continuum.
- camgunz 3y agoThese all have simple counterfactuals in other countries, like EU countries. The idea that violence won't decrease if we ban guns is completely disproven, empirically.