3 ms·

from their own FAQ linked from this page: Is ChatGPT safe for all ages? ChatGPT is not meant for children under 13, and we require that children ages

from their own FAQ linked from this page: Is ChatGPT safe for all ages? ChatGPT is not meant for children under 13, and we require that children ages 13 to 18 obtain parental consent before using ChatGPT. so in other words: no it's grossly irresponsible to be pushing "Teaching with AI" in this scenario

teacpde 3y ago
Teaching doesn't prescribe students to be younger than 18.
catchnear4321 3y ago
you act like parental consent wasn’t listed as a requirement. though it may not be broadly recognized as such, that requirement is an admission that it is foolish to hand a child access without guidance. you know, like in the form of a parent. parental guidance. which starts with parental consent. so in other words: it depends. it’s grossly irresponsible to treat a hammer as inherently dangerous.
whywhywhywhy 3y ago
Can’t imagine I’d have bothered engaging with any subject I wasn’t interested in if ChatGPT existed back then. Always remember the glorious few months when I had Encarta at home before too many students had it and before teachers clocked on where homework became just printing the page on the subject off after removing identifying bits.
- harry8 3y ago
  You make a strong case about lack of education quality and make-work time-wasting foisted upon children. Education is not a problem the human race has solved despite progress made.
waffletower 3y ago
I disagree. Ethical teachers audit and examine all content they intend to be consumed by students -- it is their responsibility regardless of what medium or agents are used to create them. It is common for people to disregard that generative AI is currently a tool without agency whose use requires a selection process. Just as a camera needs to be aimed, AI does as well.
- Gerardo1 3y ago
  can you prove to me in a verifiable way that no matter what prompt I put into ChatGPT, it won't give me pornography back?
  - waffletower 3y ago
    It is the teacher's responsibility to evaluate any materials they present to students. If they are given an output they interpret to be pornographic, they decide whether to provide it or not to students. I imagine it is possible that you might determine something to be pornographic that a given teacher may not. Pornography is an interpretation, which varies culturally and politically. Regardless, it is definitely not my responsibility to prove what ChatGPT will provide whatsoever, I don't work for OpenAI.
  - sebzim4500 3y ago
    No, but then I can't prove that to you about Google either and I don't see schools trying to ban that.
  - pixl97 3y ago
    Can you prove in a verifiable way no matter what you prompt to your teacher they won't give you pornography back?
  - jstarfish 3y ago
    > can you prove to me in a verifiable way that no matter what prompt I put into ChatGPT, it won't give me pornography back? No, but if it's turning you away even when you're explicitly asking for it, it's probably doing good enough. Nobody held Yahoo, Lycos or Altavista to this standard. If accidental erotica is the worst outcome you can imagine for the shortcomings of AI teaching, please leave worrying about this to the professionals. Consider flawed chemistry lessons, where it tells some kid to mix two things they shouldn't. That will actually cause material harm to everyone around them.

teacpde 3y ago

Teaching doesn't prescribe students to be younger than 18.

catchnear4321 3y ago

you act like parental consent wasn’t listed as a requirement. though it may not be broadly recognized as such, that requirement is an admission that it is foolish to hand a child access without guidance. you know, like in the form of a parent. parental guidance. which starts with parental consent. so in other words: it depends. it’s grossly irresponsible to treat a hammer as inherently dangerous.

whywhywhywhy 3y ago

Can’t imagine I’d have bothered engaging with any subject I wasn’t interested in if ChatGPT existed back then. Always remember the glorious few months when I had Encarta at home before too many students had it and before teachers clocked on where homework became just printing the page on the subject off after removing identifying bits.

harry8 3y ago
You make a strong case about lack of education quality and make-work time-wasting foisted upon children. Education is not a problem the human race has solved despite progress made.

waffletower 3y ago

I disagree. Ethical teachers audit and examine all content they intend to be consumed by students -- it is their responsibility regardless of what medium or agents are used to create them. It is common for people to disregard that generative AI is currently a tool without agency whose use requires a selection process. Just as a camera needs to be aimed, AI does as well.

Gerardo1 3y ago
can you prove to me in a verifiable way that no matter what prompt I put into ChatGPT, it won't give me pornography back?
- waffletower 3y ago
  It is the teacher's responsibility to evaluate any materials they present to students. If they are given an output they interpret to be pornographic, they decide whether to provide it or not to students. I imagine it is possible that you might determine something to be pornographic that a given teacher may not. Pornography is an interpretation, which varies culturally and politically. Regardless, it is definitely not my responsibility to prove what ChatGPT will provide whatsoever, I don't work for OpenAI.
- sebzim4500 3y ago
  No, but then I can't prove that to you about Google either and I don't see schools trying to ban that.
- pixl97 3y ago
  Can you prove in a verifiable way no matter what you prompt to your teacher they won't give you pornography back?
- jstarfish 3y ago
  > can you prove to me in a verifiable way that no matter what prompt I put into ChatGPT, it won't give me pornography back? No, but if it's turning you away even when you're explicitly asking for it, it's probably doing good enough. Nobody held Yahoo, Lycos or Altavista to this standard. If accidental erotica is the worst outcome you can imagine for the shortcomings of AI teaching, please leave worrying about this to the professionals. Consider flawed chemistry lessons, where it tells some kid to mix two things they shouldn't. That will actually cause material harm to everyone around them.