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It's remarkable how you've managed to completely invert the reality. Please link where racist hate speech is "widely disseminated" on reddit. (Reddit has been

It's remarkable how you've managed to completely invert the reality. Please link where racist hate speech is "widely disseminated" on reddit. (Reddit has been strictly controlled speech according to San Francisco values for a decade). Or please show, anywhere in America, a "crowd saying things to say keep black kids out of their local school yelling".

MSFT_Edging 3y ago
> Reddit has been strictly controlled speech according to San Francisco values for a decade This is untrue in practice, often wrapped in dog whistles, or rephrased as "urban" or something else terrible. Reddit is still an extremely racist place and its basically a game to find new ways to be racist.
- shrimp_emoji 3y ago
  If Reddit is racist, every place is racist. If racism is the natural condition of humanity, and you need ocean-boiling engines of censorship constantly watching and suppressing content to shape it into some bonsai fiction of humanity that pleases certain people, then we don't deserve otherwise. I'd rather arrive at that pretty bonsai of humanity through education of society at a massive scale than censorship at a massive scale.
rnk 3y ago
Another place to see it is on twitter. Now that we are in the post-Musk X time, there is much more there, it's not being blocked like it was in the past. The gist of my argument was social media sometimes allows a lot more racist speech, getting to my thought that this is why some young people want censoring of that, because they don't want to be confronted with it. Even advertisers have noticed - https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/16/tech/x-ads-pro-nazi-account-brand-safety/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/16/tech/x-ads-pro-nazi-account-b.... I didn't mean to imply there wasn't racist public speech in say the '60s, of course there was, but it wasn't repeated on the news much. If you went out in a crowd you'd hear it, but the news paper usually gave some nicer repetition.
- jlawson 3y ago
  You said 'another place' but you didn't show us anything in the first two places. So - you have no links to all that racism you're describing on reddit? And no evidence of crowds yelling to keep black kids out of their schools either? Again - You're saying there's so much racism. Substantiate your claims. Please provide the links to show us that what you're describing actually exists. (It doesn't exist, because all these social networks very strictly police speech to prevent racism, as does society at large.)

MSFT_Edging 3y ago

> Reddit has been strictly controlled speech according to San Francisco values for a decade This is untrue in practice, often wrapped in dog whistles, or rephrased as "urban" or something else terrible. Reddit is still an extremely racist place and its basically a game to find new ways to be racist.

shrimp_emoji 3y ago
If Reddit is racist, every place is racist. If racism is the natural condition of humanity, and you need ocean-boiling engines of censorship constantly watching and suppressing content to shape it into some bonsai fiction of humanity that pleases certain people, then we don't deserve otherwise. I'd rather arrive at that pretty bonsai of humanity through education of society at a massive scale than censorship at a massive scale.

rnk 3y ago

Another place to see it is on twitter. Now that we are in the post-Musk X time, there is much more there, it's not being blocked like it was in the past. The gist of my argument was social media sometimes allows a lot more racist speech, getting to my thought that this is why some young people want censoring of that, because they don't want to be confronted with it. Even advertisers have noticed - https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/16/tech/x-ads-pro-nazi-account-brand-safety/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/16/tech/x-ads-pro-nazi-account-b.... I didn't mean to imply there wasn't racist public speech in say the '60s, of course there was, but it wasn't repeated on the news much. If you went out in a crowd you'd hear it, but the news paper usually gave some nicer repetition.

jlawson 3y ago
You said 'another place' but you didn't show us anything in the first two places. So - you have no links to all that racism you're describing on reddit? And no evidence of crowds yelling to keep black kids out of their schools either? Again - You're saying there's so much racism. Substantiate your claims. Please provide the links to show us that what you're describing actually exists. (It doesn't exist, because all these social networks very strictly police speech to prevent racism, as does society at large.)