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I guess I don't see what other option we have other than drill baby drill. Yes we're killing our planet but renewable aren't able to provide the energy we need

I guess I don't see what other option we have other than drill baby drill. Yes we're killing our planet but renewable aren't able to provide the energy we need at scale. Switching to 100% renewables and not drilling means increased oil prices and ultimately less consumption across the board. Less food, less driving, less heat, less AC. We'd all have to give up a lot and no one is signing up for that. There's this magical thinking that we can switch to renewables and keep everything the same or that it only be a minor speedbump but that's nonsense. Switching to 100% renewables means redefining modern life as we know it in a way that involves a whole lot less materialism/consumerism for everyone.

pydry 3y ago
All of these changes that seem impossible that are routine when there is a large scale war on - production shifts + consumption is restricted. The difference is that an existential climate crisis it just isn't treated by our leaders with the same importance as a good old fashioned war.
Capricorn2481 3y ago
The option is not 100% renewable or 100% fossil fuels. It's not a ridiculous goal that we can just reduce emissions
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bubbleRefuge 3y ago
why can't we do nuclear with plugin hybrids in urban areas. the federal government , which, as an issuer of money, can afford anything, unlike states/municipalities, should massively fund nuclear to save the environment meet energy demands. seems like such a no-brainer.
- RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y ago
  > why can't we do nuclear Because of environmentalists like Green Peace, Sierra Club etc.
- crote 3y ago
  > why can't we do nuclear Because the free market is not willing to bear the risks - even when you ignore the whole "nuclear waste" and "meltdown" part. The construction costs are extremely high and basically guaranteed to wildly exceed initial estimates, while electricity price is highly volatile. The only way companies are interested in building reactors is by having a guaranteed government subsidy. For example, Sizewell C in the UK has negotiated a guaranteed electricity price of £119 / MWh. The long-term electricity spot price in the UK for 2013-2021 is closer to £70, so taxpayers have to pay an additional £49 / MWh in subsidies. Good luck selling that to the nuclear-skeptic taxpayers.
  - bubbleRefuge 3y ago
    Governments like the US federal gov, who are currency issues can afford anything . Where did the 7 trillion dollar covid spending come from ? What we cannot afford is to do nothing and maintain the status quo. Federally funded nuclear with plug in electric is the path to prosperity.

pydry 3y ago

All of these changes that seem impossible that are routine when there is a large scale war on - production shifts + consumption is restricted. The difference is that an existential climate crisis it just isn't treated by our leaders with the same importance as a good old fashioned war.

Capricorn2481 3y ago

The option is not 100% renewable or 100% fossil fuels. It's not a ridiculous goal that we can just reduce emissions

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bubbleRefuge 3y ago

why can't we do nuclear with plugin hybrids in urban areas. the federal government , which, as an issuer of money, can afford anything, unlike states/municipalities, should massively fund nuclear to save the environment meet energy demands. seems like such a no-brainer.

RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y ago
> why can't we do nuclear Because of environmentalists like Green Peace, Sierra Club etc.
crote 3y ago
> why can't we do nuclear Because the free market is not willing to bear the risks - even when you ignore the whole "nuclear waste" and "meltdown" part. The construction costs are extremely high and basically guaranteed to wildly exceed initial estimates, while electricity price is highly volatile. The only way companies are interested in building reactors is by having a guaranteed government subsidy. For example, Sizewell C in the UK has negotiated a guaranteed electricity price of £119 / MWh. The long-term electricity spot price in the UK for 2013-2021 is closer to £70, so taxpayers have to pay an additional £49 / MWh in subsidies. Good luck selling that to the nuclear-skeptic taxpayers.
- bubbleRefuge 3y ago
  Governments like the US federal gov, who are currency issues can afford anything . Where did the 7 trillion dollar covid spending come from ? What we cannot afford is to do nothing and maintain the status quo. Federally funded nuclear with plug in electric is the path to prosperity.