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I wish I could read this article or even what it is about, but I first got a modal window "our privacy policy has changed" (as if I care, I'm on the Internet, t

by keyle 3y ago

I wish I could read this article or even what it is about, but I first got a modal window "our privacy policy has changed" (as if I care, I'm on the Internet, trying to read an article!), so I dismiss it... And then, half the screen, HALF(!), got covered with a white panel in what looks like "subscribe or vamos!", completely blocking the view. If you don't want to be on the Internet, fine! Just sell paper or something /s. I'm sorry I'd like to support quality journalism and articles but this is not the way. You won't see a dime from me with those antics. I actually wish HN would have a user filter for domains, so I could proactively remove links to this domain from the homepage, because I know it is abhorrently opposing the open web. There is enough interesting quality articles already shared in the open, I don't need this. Sorry for the rant, I'm sure it is an interesting article, and I wish this author gets paid fairly for writing it. Just... this can't be the future. It's infuriating. Give me a way that I can press a button on the screen after reading the slug, and I make a direct transaction of 5 cents to read the full article. Boom. Done. I'd do it for the stuff that probe my interest, because I'll never pay 50c a week. Everyone is saturated with subscriptions now.

tptacek 3y ago
Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- lionkor 3y ago
  Pretty sure this doesnt apply, as its not a common issue at all
  - tptacek 3y ago
    It definitely does; the reason we have this rule in the first place is that this story about Zadie Smith is absolutely dominated by an off-topic thread about website presentation that nobody at the New York Times is ever going to read or care about.
- keyle 3y ago
  I believe my semi-rant does provide valuable grounds for discussion, as I discuss the state of news subscriptions and offer ideas regarding micro-transactions for paywalled content on the Internet. Since more people than not will be blocked by the paywall, it's a relevant discussion to this thread.
js2 3y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37340061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37340061
dkdbejwi383 3y ago
You can try prepending the url with `archive.is/` which will get around annoyance-walls in some cases. e.g. https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/28/books/review/zadie-smith-the-fraud.html https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/28/books/...
- unknown_user_84 3y ago
  Is archive.is/today/ph working for anyone today? Yesterday .is and .today were giving me an eternal CAPTCHA but .ph worked. Today .today and .ph are giving me an eternal CAPTCHA while .is loads the website, but tries to redirect to .ph with an eternal CAPTCHA when I click on the snapshot link. Makes me think whoever runs this is trying to fix something really annoying.
  - cjrp 3y ago
    I get the looping CAPTCHA in my office, but not at home.
  - camgunz 3y ago
    I've found this is because my ISP uses Cloudflare DNS; when I switch to mobile (on my phone or tethering) it's fine.
    - rnk 3y ago
      I have that problem too on my comcast home internet, looping captca for archive.is. I figured it was dns lookup. Is cloudflare blocking it somehow? And I also noticed using my phone internet works for archive.is. I want to figure out how to avoid cloudflare or whatever blocking me. I need a simple dns rule I can put in my router or something.
      - cge 3y ago
        My recollection is that it is the opposite: Cloudflare and archive.is have disagreements about DNS, and as a result archive.is blocks Cloudflare.
JKCalhoun 3y ago
Enabling Reader mode in Safari works for me, FWIW. In fact I set the preference in Safari to always enable Reader mode for that domain.
- oez 3y ago
  For some reason using reader mode in Chrome/Vanadium on my phone only shows the preview now. If I open it in Firefox/Mull which has JS disabled it shows up fine. That said I've been trying to avoid NYT due to this anyway.
- ycombinatornews 3y ago
  I was always curious about that. Reader mode on nytimes shows only 1-2 paragraphs from the actual article and then “subscribe” link. How does it work for you?
  - drewg123 3y ago
    In firefox at least, I see the same thing. But then if I refresh the page (with reader mode still enabled), I see the entire article.
tgv 3y ago
[flagged]
ledauphin 3y ago
i, too, wish that there were an actual way to pay per view on things like this. i read a lot, but i read widely, and I have absolutely no desire to pay for the entirety of what tNYT is into (nor do i want to deal with their dark patterns around canceling). Everyone keeps telling me there's no market for this, etc etc, and I suppose that must be true, but I can't help but think that there must be _dozens_ of us who want a different approach here...
- macintux 3y ago
  I long held out hope Apple would solve the news micropayment problem, but I suppose that’s what Apple News+ is (give or take).

by keyle 3y ago

tptacek 3y ago

Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

lionkor 3y ago
Pretty sure this doesnt apply, as its not a common issue at all
- tptacek 3y ago
  It definitely does; the reason we have this rule in the first place is that this story about Zadie Smith is absolutely dominated by an off-topic thread about website presentation that nobody at the New York Times is ever going to read or care about.
keyle 3y ago
I believe my semi-rant does provide valuable grounds for discussion, as I discuss the state of news subscriptions and offer ideas regarding micro-transactions for paywalled content on the Internet. Since more people than not will be blocked by the paywall, it's a relevant discussion to this thread.

js2 3y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37340061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37340061

dkdbejwi383 3y ago

You can try prepending the url with `archive.is/` which will get around annoyance-walls in some cases. e.g. https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/28/books/review/zadie-smith-the-fraud.html https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/28/books/...

unknown_user_84 3y ago
Is archive.is/today/ph working for anyone today? Yesterday .is and .today were giving me an eternal CAPTCHA but .ph worked. Today .today and .ph are giving me an eternal CAPTCHA while .is loads the website, but tries to redirect to .ph with an eternal CAPTCHA when I click on the snapshot link. Makes me think whoever runs this is trying to fix something really annoying.
- cjrp 3y ago
  I get the looping CAPTCHA in my office, but not at home.
- camgunz 3y ago
  I've found this is because my ISP uses Cloudflare DNS; when I switch to mobile (on my phone or tethering) it's fine.
  - rnk 3y ago
    I have that problem too on my comcast home internet, looping captca for archive.is. I figured it was dns lookup. Is cloudflare blocking it somehow? And I also noticed using my phone internet works for archive.is. I want to figure out how to avoid cloudflare or whatever blocking me. I need a simple dns rule I can put in my router or something.
    - cge 3y ago
      My recollection is that it is the opposite: Cloudflare and archive.is have disagreements about DNS, and as a result archive.is blocks Cloudflare.

JKCalhoun 3y ago

Enabling Reader mode in Safari works for me, FWIW. In fact I set the preference in Safari to always enable Reader mode for that domain.

oez 3y ago
For some reason using reader mode in Chrome/Vanadium on my phone only shows the preview now. If I open it in Firefox/Mull which has JS disabled it shows up fine. That said I've been trying to avoid NYT due to this anyway.
ycombinatornews 3y ago
I was always curious about that. Reader mode on nytimes shows only 1-2 paragraphs from the actual article and then “subscribe” link. How does it work for you?
- drewg123 3y ago
  In firefox at least, I see the same thing. But then if I refresh the page (with reader mode still enabled), I see the entire article.

tgv 3y ago

[flagged]

ledauphin 3y ago

i, too, wish that there were an actual way to pay per view on things like this. i read a lot, but i read widely, and I have absolutely no desire to pay for the entirety of what tNYT is into (nor do i want to deal with their dark patterns around canceling). Everyone keeps telling me there's no market for this, etc etc, and I suppose that must be true, but I can't help but think that there must be _dozens_ of us who want a different approach here...

macintux 3y ago
I long held out hope Apple would solve the news micropayment problem, but I suppose that’s what Apple News+ is (give or take).