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It actually was a respectable company. But the guy who started it all (Mitchell Hashimoto) isn't there anymore (at least not as a decision maker) so the corpora

by artyom 3y ago

It actually was a respectable company. But the guy who started it all (Mitchell Hashimoto) isn't there anymore (at least not as a decision maker) so the corporate drones are taking over.

geerlingguy 3y ago
It's sad too, mitchellh used to be fairly active in the HN community but it seems he is not able to for likely professional reasons after the BSL fiasco.
- scrollaway 3y ago
  Mitchell is a wonderful hacker. He’s someone who gets what an open source company is/should be better than many who tried. I suspect he doesn’t feel great about what’s happening with the company…
  - jeremyjh 3y ago
    I'm sure he's been well compensated for his hurt feelings.
    - danw1979 3y ago
      Yeah, by those of us who bought in post IPO at $82… this BSL nonsense is particularly annoying to me because I lost a bit of dosh on HCP.
      - matwood 3y ago
        Nonsense? Now that the company is public we can see the issue. They are losing a ton of money. This isn't about quarterly projections, it's about keeping the company afloat.
  - miah_ 3y ago
    Remember, he was CEO but didn't like that role. He stepped down from the CEO role as well as the board so he could continue to hack rather than lead. I agree, its likely not how he wants things to be run but its not his decision anymore. https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/mitchell-s-new-role-at-hashicorp https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/mitchell-s-new-role-at-hashic...
  - laserlight 3y ago
    > He’s someone who _gets_ what an open source company is/should be better than many who tried. I would have expected him to put in place mechanisms making the license change impossible, if he got that well what an open source company should be.
    - sneak 3y ago
      The license change is only for future changes. The existing codebase cannot be relicensed as HC does not own full copyright on 100% of contributions AIUI.
      - laserlight 3y ago
        IANAL, but I don't think anyone can change license of something that has already been published. Doing so would defeat the purpose of having a license, in the first place.
danw1979 3y ago
Co-founder Armon is still the CTO. Maybe his influence isn’t as great any more, or maybe even he went along with this terrible idea…

by artyom 3y ago

It actually was a respectable company. But the guy who started it all (Mitchell Hashimoto) isn't there anymore (at least not as a decision maker) so the corporate drones are taking over.

geerlingguy 3y ago

It's sad too, mitchellh used to be fairly active in the HN community but it seems he is not able to for likely professional reasons after the BSL fiasco.

scrollaway 3y ago
Mitchell is a wonderful hacker. He’s someone who gets what an open source company is/should be better than many who tried. I suspect he doesn’t feel great about what’s happening with the company…
- jeremyjh 3y ago
  I'm sure he's been well compensated for his hurt feelings.
  - danw1979 3y ago
    Yeah, by those of us who bought in post IPO at $82… this BSL nonsense is particularly annoying to me because I lost a bit of dosh on HCP.
    - matwood 3y ago
      Nonsense? Now that the company is public we can see the issue. They are losing a ton of money. This isn't about quarterly projections, it's about keeping the company afloat.
- miah_ 3y ago
  Remember, he was CEO but didn't like that role. He stepped down from the CEO role as well as the board so he could continue to hack rather than lead. I agree, its likely not how he wants things to be run but its not his decision anymore. https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/mitchell-s-new-role-at-hashicorp https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/mitchell-s-new-role-at-hashic...
- laserlight 3y ago
  > He’s someone who _gets_ what an open source company is/should be better than many who tried. I would have expected him to put in place mechanisms making the license change impossible, if he got that well what an open source company should be.
  - sneak 3y ago
    The license change is only for future changes. The existing codebase cannot be relicensed as HC does not own full copyright on 100% of contributions AIUI.
    - laserlight 3y ago
      IANAL, but I don't think anyone can change license of something that has already been published. Doing so would defeat the purpose of having a license, in the first place.

danw1979 3y ago

Co-founder Armon is still the CTO. Maybe his influence isn’t as great any more, or maybe even he went along with this terrible idea…