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I had Hashicorp in my mind as a cool and respectful company. These recent events have made to reconsider and throw them into the same bag as Oracle. I find thi

• aae42 3y ago
  They absolutely were at one point, this is why the BSL move was so upsetting, not because it necessarily stopped people from using it (unless they of course were offering competing services), but because it signaled that the phase of HashiCorp being a cool and respectful company are over. It's almost a capitalist gut punch. Chasing that dollar, companies will squeeze every last drop of altruism out of a company. It makes me think that the gov. should provide incentives to keep open source software backed by corporations going by figuring out how to offer a tax break on all of the "lost revenue"... We just need a good way of figuring out what the lost revenue is. :thinking:
• artyom 3y ago
  It actually was a respectable company. But the guy who started it all (Mitchell Hashimoto) isn't there anymore (at least not as a decision maker) so the corporate drones are taking over.
  • geerlingguy 3y ago
    It's sad too, mitchellh used to be fairly active in the HN community but it seems he is not able to for likely professional reasons after the BSL fiasco.
    • scrollaway 3y ago
      Mitchell is a wonderful hacker. He’s someone who gets what an open source company is/should be better than many who tried. I suspect he doesn’t feel great about what’s happening with the company…
      • jeremyjh 3y ago
        I'm sure he's been well compensated for his hurt feelings.
        • danw1979 3y ago
          Yeah, by those of us who bought in post IPO at $82… this BSL nonsense is particularly annoying to me because I lost a bit of dosh on HCP.
          • matwood 3y ago
            Nonsense? Now that the company is public we can see the issue. They are losing a ton of money. This isn't about quarterly projections, it's about keeping the company afloat.
      • miah_ 3y ago
        Remember, he was CEO but didn't like that role. He stepped down from the CEO role as well as the board so he could continue to hack rather than lead. I agree, its likely not how he wants things to be run but its not his decision anymore. https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/mitchell-s-new-role-at-hashicorp https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/mitchell-s-new-role-at-hashic...
      • laserlight 3y ago
        > He’s someone who _gets_ what an open source company is/should be better than many who tried. I would have expected him to put in place mechanisms making the license change impossible, if he got that well what an open source company should be.
        • sneak 3y ago
          The license change is only for future changes. The existing codebase cannot be relicensed as HC does not own full copyright on 100% of contributions AIUI.
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  • danw1979 3y ago
    Co-founder Armon is still the CTO. Maybe his influence isn’t as great any more, or maybe even he went along with this terrible idea…
• candiddevmike 3y ago
  Who knows, maybe Oracle will acquire them someday, they seem to be heading towards acquisition/buy out.
  • quickthrower2 3y ago
    They got MySQL and Java so Terraform would be a good one to bag
    • thedougd 3y ago
      I believe Oracle uses Terraform as their OCI CloudFormation equivalent.
• bombolo 3y ago
  You had never used vault uh?
  • pizzafeelsright 3y ago
    Would you provide some details on this?
    • bombolo 3y ago
      Some data backends have very very small limits for the data… so small that my 4096bit private key wouldn't fit.
• thayne 3y ago
  I used to think Hashicorp was a company I would have liked to work for. I no longer think that.
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