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No offense to the author but that's just ridiculous. If the only charging infrastructure we deploy is single-phase AC power, electric cars are doomed. When yo
by tw04 3y ago
No offense to the author but that's just ridiculous. If the only charging infrastructure we deploy is single-phase AC power, electric cars are doomed. When your roadtrip involves stopping every 250-300 miles to charge for 8 hours, you just aren't using it. Not to mention he's essentially stealing power since he rolled into an RV park and by his own description didn't actually PAY the RV park for the electricity he used.
There are a lot of issues with charging in the US, but that's more a matter of immaturity than anything else. We need far more L3 DC fast chargers, and we need the folks building the charging stations to be more tightly integrated with car mfg's so they can actively test fast charging before new cars hit the market to work out bugs BEFORE the first time someone wants to charge a new model.
If you're going to downvote, at least have the decency to respond. I assume folks that don't like the response don't own an electric vehicle. If you've ever taken a road trip in one, you'd immediately know how ridiculous it is to advocate for deploying NEMA 14-50 outlets across the US as a solution to charging... it would be an absolute waste of US taxpayer dollars for endless reasons, not the least of which the charging speeds are so slow as to be borderline useless unless it's a destination you were already planning on spending an overnight trip at. At which point you'd be better served by an L2 charger which have none of the communication issues that sometimes exist with DC fast charging.
- _ea1k 3y agoTo be fair, I doubt most knowledgeable RV parks would mind. In my area, it is less than <$.15/kwh (often _much_ less). Even for a Lucid, that'd be $16.50 at most. The parking spots here tend to be $50 and up and most RVs would be running A/C off the power most of the day anyway. So the real difference is maybe ~half of that? I doubt the campground would complain about a customer like this. And, tbh, RV energy usage will vary widely too. They don't really charge differently for a large RV with a big A/C on >90F days vs a smaller one there during early spring.
- tw04 3y ago>In my area, it is less than <$.15/kwh (often _much_ less). Even for a Lucid, that'd be $16.50 at most. The parking spots here tend to be $50 and up and most RVs would be running A/C off the power most of the day anyway. So the real difference is maybe ~half of that? I'm not following, you're saying RV parks would have no issues with EVs swinging by every day, using $15 of electricity, and not ever paying a dime? I'm not sure about your area, but around here campgrounds aren't exactly printing money... they would very much not be cool with someone stealing their power. If you're suggesting someone paying $50 for a parking spot and then plugging in - sure the RV park isn't going to care at all. The author of the article appears to have just taken the power without paying a dime though...
- _ea1k 3y agoI've never seen an RV park that would allow you to take a powered spot without paying. Unless it is unstaffed, I don't think you'd get by with it. Doing so is trespassing and theft. I didn't see where he said that he did that, just that the power wasn't metered. TBH, even with that, I've seen RV parks that would refuse a paying EV customer for various reasons.
- vel0city 3y agoBut if they didn't pay for the spot they're not a customer they're just someone who took >$16 worth of resources and left. And if you're paying $50 for the spot, you're massively overpaying for your charging.
- _ea1k 3y agoYes, it isn't the cheapest way to do it, unless you are car camping anyway. I didn't see where it said he was trespassing.