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Just saw a documentary interviewing escaped trafficked labors – just men, women ain't even capable of escape. They are falsely promised for "entrepreneurial op

Just saw a documentary interviewing escaped trafficked labors – just men, women ain't even capable of escape. They are falsely promised for "entrepreneurial opportunities," promptly got locked up and financially deprived to do scamming, prostitution, etc. One guy escaped, bystanders took him to the police and the police was part of the traffiking ring and sold him back. He finally paid off somebody with promise of ransom payment from his relatives, and upon entering Chinese border, he was fined by Chinese border control for violations. These local traffik orgs are armed with AKs and well connected politically. What a crazy, crazy world.

andrethegiant 3y ago
Link to documentary?
- ConfusedDog 3y ago
  I couldn't find the exact video I saw on YouTube. It's funny if you search "escape Cambodia," a lot of Gordon Ramsey's food videos pops up, but if you search "逃出柬埔寨" in Chinese, you find all these terrible trafficking cases.
  - larkaa 3y ago
    I'm guessing it's this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-EtdC4zQso https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-EtdC4zQso
- aaron695 3y ago
  This is the best for Cambodia - "Forced to Scam: Cambodia’s Cyber Slaves" by Al Jazeera - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-EtdC4zQso https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-EtdC4zQso > local traffik orgs are armed with AKs > police was part of the traffiking ring These statements are not representative of Cambodia, local/Chinese gangsters don't run around with AKs, and the documentary is a little exaggerated like all documentaries but I don't doubt there were suicides and beatings. Some Facebook ads were very clear what you were doing. There were not 100,000 working in Cambodia and most were not trafficked. This UN statement is garbage, liars bore me. It's why this is progressing to organ harvesting and other rubbish because the UN is bringing it to fantasy. Watch the doco and they mention the amounts they were making, then times that by 100,000 trafficked then all the ones who answered the Facebook ads and it doesn't add up. It's the Chinese doing this, which the UN page doesn't mention. Maybe the report does. But it's a main point for a summary... if the truth mattered. Video of 40 people escaping a Chinese run Cambodian casino https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/40-people-swim-back-to-vietnam-after-escape-from-cambodian-casino-4501407.html https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/40-people-swim-back-to-vie...
  - zztop44 3y ago
    Shoutout for 101 East, which does some excellent reportage on a bunch of underreported East Asian and south East Asian topics.
  - jesterson 3y ago
    > It's the Chinese doing this, which the UN page doesn't mention. I was expecting that in that incoherent and ignorant flow eventually will be some nationality blamed, and I wasnt disappointed.
renegade-otter 3y ago
Perhaps not as dramatic, but this is not uncommon. HBO is right now running the documentary series Telemarketers, about a US operation that is clearly a fraud, but it's protected by corrupt and bribed police union management.
adhesive_wombat 3y ago
> They are falsely promised for "entrepreneurial opportunities" From what I heard, which I cannot verify, it's more sinister then that. People take completely normal-sounding jobs in normal-looking and functioning offices. After several months of being paid normally for normal work, they're invited to a team-building event in SE Asia. There, they lose their passports, are interned in huge camps and are press-ganged into being scammers, and tortured or killed if they refuse. This isn't your usual "can't cheat an honest man" tale where you sucker in greedy rubes with a promised free lunch.
- ConfusedDog 3y ago
  Yeah, I saw that, too. If they refuse, they claimed that they are going to be "harvested" of cornea, plasma, kidney, etc. What I don't understand is that they said they were threatened to be taken to international water for organ harvesting procedures, but was that even necessary? Those camps are pretty criminal already, seems to be an unnecessary extra step.
  - adhesive_wombat 3y ago
    That sounds very much like the plot of Animal World! To be honest, it doesn't all add up for me as simply described: offices where multiple people suddenly vanish seem unlikely to escape notice back home, unless they're excellent at picking people without any support network to report them missing. But maybe there's more to it than the simple description. And there is an enormous supply of migrant workers in cities without friends or families to come looking until it's to late, so I suppose it could happen. Or maybe it's garbled in the transmission and the jobs are all actually out of the country, but they don't spring the trap instantly when you walk in But at least it seems not to be simply little scammers tricked by bigger, eviller ones, but rather they really have people who were genuinely looking for at least fairly honest work being ensnared.
    - jstarfish 3y ago
      From other accounts, people back home are generally too poor to come looking. These people have to smuggle themselves out of their own country, then maintain a presence illegally abroad, then run an amateur investigation. It just doesn't work out like that.
bannedbybros 3y ago
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appleflaxen 3y ago
It's the modern day slave trade.
granshaw 3y ago
Where there is no opportunity, there will be crime
brightball 3y ago
The well connected politically is the weird thing about this to me. I think we can all agree that trafficking is…bad. Yet there seems to be this strange political push back against anti-trafficking efforts. I’ve seen it for years to the point of pretending it’s not even a problem. The recent political reaction to Sound of Freedom, which was not a political movie, is just the latest example. It’s one of the most worrisome aspects I’ve seen in general “politicize everything” trends.
- xwolfi 3y ago
  Politics is a fancy name for "controlling the rules well enough to be able to prospect my little business". Politicians are not all ideologically positive and benevolent, or even patriotic or nationalist, some are really just trying to find a way to do business better. One of the worst banana republics in that regard are the USA: here in China we'd never let a frigging casino operator rule the country, we have a small pride still.
  - whimsicalism 3y ago
    Bo Xilai literally was on the Politburo and laundered massive amounts of casino money from Macau internationally.

andrethegiant 3y ago

Link to documentary?

ConfusedDog 3y ago
I couldn't find the exact video I saw on YouTube. It's funny if you search "escape Cambodia," a lot of Gordon Ramsey's food videos pops up, but if you search "逃出柬埔寨" in Chinese, you find all these terrible trafficking cases.
- larkaa 3y ago
  I'm guessing it's this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-EtdC4zQso https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-EtdC4zQso
aaron695 3y ago
This is the best for Cambodia - "Forced to Scam: Cambodia’s Cyber Slaves" by Al Jazeera - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-EtdC4zQso https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-EtdC4zQso > local traffik orgs are armed with AKs > police was part of the traffiking ring These statements are not representative of Cambodia, local/Chinese gangsters don't run around with AKs, and the documentary is a little exaggerated like all documentaries but I don't doubt there were suicides and beatings. Some Facebook ads were very clear what you were doing. There were not 100,000 working in Cambodia and most were not trafficked. This UN statement is garbage, liars bore me. It's why this is progressing to organ harvesting and other rubbish because the UN is bringing it to fantasy. Watch the doco and they mention the amounts they were making, then times that by 100,000 trafficked then all the ones who answered the Facebook ads and it doesn't add up. It's the Chinese doing this, which the UN page doesn't mention. Maybe the report does. But it's a main point for a summary... if the truth mattered. Video of 40 people escaping a Chinese run Cambodian casino https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/40-people-swim-back-to-vietnam-after-escape-from-cambodian-casino-4501407.html https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/40-people-swim-back-to-vie...
- zztop44 3y ago
  Shoutout for 101 East, which does some excellent reportage on a bunch of underreported East Asian and south East Asian topics.
- jesterson 3y ago
  > It's the Chinese doing this, which the UN page doesn't mention. I was expecting that in that incoherent and ignorant flow eventually will be some nationality blamed, and I wasnt disappointed.

renegade-otter 3y ago

Perhaps not as dramatic, but this is not uncommon. HBO is right now running the documentary series Telemarketers, about a US operation that is clearly a fraud, but it's protected by corrupt and bribed police union management.

adhesive_wombat 3y ago

> They are falsely promised for "entrepreneurial opportunities" From what I heard, which I cannot verify, it's more sinister then that. People take completely normal-sounding jobs in normal-looking and functioning offices. After several months of being paid normally for normal work, they're invited to a team-building event in SE Asia. There, they lose their passports, are interned in huge camps and are press-ganged into being scammers, and tortured or killed if they refuse. This isn't your usual "can't cheat an honest man" tale where you sucker in greedy rubes with a promised free lunch.

ConfusedDog 3y ago
Yeah, I saw that, too. If they refuse, they claimed that they are going to be "harvested" of cornea, plasma, kidney, etc. What I don't understand is that they said they were threatened to be taken to international water for organ harvesting procedures, but was that even necessary? Those camps are pretty criminal already, seems to be an unnecessary extra step.
- adhesive_wombat 3y ago
  That sounds very much like the plot of Animal World! To be honest, it doesn't all add up for me as simply described: offices where multiple people suddenly vanish seem unlikely to escape notice back home, unless they're excellent at picking people without any support network to report them missing. But maybe there's more to it than the simple description. And there is an enormous supply of migrant workers in cities without friends or families to come looking until it's to late, so I suppose it could happen. Or maybe it's garbled in the transmission and the jobs are all actually out of the country, but they don't spring the trap instantly when you walk in But at least it seems not to be simply little scammers tricked by bigger, eviller ones, but rather they really have people who were genuinely looking for at least fairly honest work being ensnared.
  - jstarfish 3y ago
    From other accounts, people back home are generally too poor to come looking. These people have to smuggle themselves out of their own country, then maintain a presence illegally abroad, then run an amateur investigation. It just doesn't work out like that.

bannedbybros 3y ago

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appleflaxen 3y ago

It's the modern day slave trade.

granshaw 3y ago

Where there is no opportunity, there will be crime

brightball 3y ago

The well connected politically is the weird thing about this to me. I think we can all agree that trafficking is…bad. Yet there seems to be this strange political push back against anti-trafficking efforts. I’ve seen it for years to the point of pretending it’s not even a problem. The recent political reaction to Sound of Freedom, which was not a political movie, is just the latest example. It’s one of the most worrisome aspects I’ve seen in general “politicize everything” trends.

xwolfi 3y ago
Politics is a fancy name for "controlling the rules well enough to be able to prospect my little business". Politicians are not all ideologically positive and benevolent, or even patriotic or nationalist, some are really just trying to find a way to do business better. One of the worst banana republics in that regard are the USA: here in China we'd never let a frigging casino operator rule the country, we have a small pride still.
- whimsicalism 3y ago
  Bo Xilai literally was on the Politburo and laundered massive amounts of casino money from Macau internationally.