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I don't want this level of surveillance either, but if the rapid growth is in 'large part' due to collecting illegal immigrant DNA, doesn't that go against the

I don't want this level of surveillance either, but if the rapid growth is in 'large part' due to collecting illegal immigrant DNA, doesn't that go against the narrative that illegal immigration is a small problem? Have we caught and released 20 (?) million people since Trump was in office?

cout 3y ago
The 20M DNA samples is more than just migrants. Still, 100K encounters per month can add up fast: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/01/13/monthly-encounters-with-migrants-at-u-s-mexico-border-remain-near-record-highs/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/01/13/monthly-e...
dpifke 3y ago
According to CBP, there were about 100,000 "encounters" on the southern border this past June, which is a 42% decline from the month before and the lowest since February, 2021: https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-releases-june-2023-monthly-update https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-rele... (It's not immediately clear to me whether an intercepted group counts as one "encounter," or if each individual in the group gets logged as a separate "encounter." My hunch is that it's the latter.) 100-150k/month * 36 months = between 3.6 and 5.4 million individuals since Trump left office, which would make up a significant chunk—but not the majority—of the 21 million DNA profiles. (For context, this is about the population of Dallas, TX or San Diego, CA entering the country illegally per year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...)
pessimizer 3y ago
My guess is that it's responsible for a significant bump in the rate of growth over the last half-decade, but only for a tiny percentage of the 21M. The reason they mention it is to make conservatives more comfortable with mass DNA collection. The excuse that was used to start mass DNA collection was a serial rapist and murderer cop who himself was excused from having his DNA collected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_James_DeAngelo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_James_DeAngelo

cout 3y ago

The 20M DNA samples is more than just migrants. Still, 100K encounters per month can add up fast: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/01/13/monthly-encounters-with-migrants-at-u-s-mexico-border-remain-near-record-highs/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/01/13/monthly-e...

dpifke 3y ago

According to CBP, there were about 100,000 "encounters" on the southern border this past June, which is a 42% decline from the month before and the lowest since February, 2021: https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-releases-june-2023-monthly-update https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-rele... (It's not immediately clear to me whether an intercepted group counts as one "encounter," or if each individual in the group gets logged as a separate "encounter." My hunch is that it's the latter.) 100-150k/month * 36 months = between 3.6 and 5.4 million individuals since Trump left office, which would make up a significant chunk—but not the majority—of the 21 million DNA profiles. (For context, this is about the population of Dallas, TX or San Diego, CA entering the country illegally per year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...)

pessimizer 3y ago

My guess is that it's responsible for a significant bump in the rate of growth over the last half-decade, but only for a tiny percentage of the 21M. The reason they mention it is to make conservatives more comfortable with mass DNA collection. The excuse that was used to start mass DNA collection was a serial rapist and murderer cop who himself was excused from having his DNA collected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_James_DeAngelo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_James_DeAngelo