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(Note: very US centric comment here) I’ve become skeptical of the motives behind any article that seems to seed some level of doubt about health screenings and

(Note: very US centric comment here) I’ve become skeptical of the motives behind any article that seems to seed some level of doubt about health screenings and any preventative or treatment measure that involves the healthcare system itself. They always stink of the insurance and for-profit healthcare system and their aversion to paying anything out beyond the absolute bare minimum to get people the care they need. I often wonder how different public attitudes would be towards treatment and prevention if the US healthcare system wasn’t profit driven.

vc8f6vVV 3y ago
Only the author of the paper is from Europe?
highwayman47 3y ago
Ya exactly, I’ve had 2 family members catch pancreatic cancer early and be cured. It’s typically the most fatal cancer.
- DonsDiscountGas 3y ago
  This study did not look at pancreatic cancer.
DonsDiscountGas 3y ago
I can see why insurance companies might not want to pay, but the people selling the screenings absolutely would want you to get screened. I dunno about all types of cancer (and screening methods), but mammograms definitely are not helpful and this has been known for a long time [0] [0] https://www.vox.com/2015/7/6/8900751/breast-cancer-overdiagnosis https://www.vox.com/2015/7/6/8900751/breast-cancer-overdiagn... (2015)
andrekandre 3y ago
> I often wonder how different public attitudes would be towards treatment and prevention if the US healthcare system wasn’t profit driven. in japan some prefectures or cities will send you leaflets/guides about how to get prescreening for cancer markers and early treatment for people past a certain age i seem to also remember seeing they offer incentives like first screening only 700 yen (about 5 bucks) etc so, yea, different systems, different incentives i guess
paddim8 3y ago
In Europe, screenings generally aren't a thing unless you're in some risk group. It's not deemed to be effective enough and staff already have a bunch of actually sick people to treat

vc8f6vVV 3y ago

Only the author of the paper is from Europe?

highwayman47 3y ago

Ya exactly, I’ve had 2 family members catch pancreatic cancer early and be cured. It’s typically the most fatal cancer.

DonsDiscountGas 3y ago
This study did not look at pancreatic cancer.

DonsDiscountGas 3y ago

I can see why insurance companies might not want to pay, but the people selling the screenings absolutely would want you to get screened. I dunno about all types of cancer (and screening methods), but mammograms definitely are not helpful and this has been known for a long time [0] [0] https://www.vox.com/2015/7/6/8900751/breast-cancer-overdiagnosis https://www.vox.com/2015/7/6/8900751/breast-cancer-overdiagn... (2015)

andrekandre 3y ago

> I often wonder how different public attitudes would be towards treatment and prevention if the US healthcare system wasn’t profit driven. in japan some prefectures or cities will send you leaflets/guides about how to get prescreening for cancer markers and early treatment for people past a certain age i seem to also remember seeing they offer incentives like first screening only 700 yen (about 5 bucks) etc so, yea, different systems, different incentives i guess

paddim8 3y ago

In Europe, screenings generally aren't a thing unless you're in some risk group. It's not deemed to be effective enough and staff already have a bunch of actually sick people to treat