Yeah that's fair; I'm responding to the sentiment that without an IDE you're left to the tender mercies of stitching together lots of other tools yourself. I th

Yeah that's fair; I'm responding to the sentiment that without an IDE you're left to the tender mercies of stitching together lots of other tools yourself. I think the reality is we're all using lots of different tools, and tools that try to "be everything" are almost never good, so I think it's more nuanced than "I only use one tightly integrated tool and it's better than using a dozen tools I have to integrate myself". I also think those other disparate tools are actually really good, and reading about and researching why they're good has given me a deeper understanding of software engineering that I can now apply in my own work. I think this is probably also possible with IDEs, but I think they're a little less approachable (and often closed source/proprietary) so it happens a lot less.