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The Russians were complaining that it is in most cases invisible to Radar and needs to be shot down by gunfire. It can also carry an explosive payload of 4-5 Kg

The Russians were complaining that it is in most cases invisible to Radar and needs to be shot down by gunfire. It can also carry an explosive payload of 4-5 Kg. Apparently 3 out of 16 were shot down with machine gun fire using tracers but 13 got through to destroy several SU-30 and MIG aircraft along with several air defense and radar complexes at a Russian airbase in the Kursk Region.

rjzzleep 3y ago
Source please? The Russians complained? Or the Ukrainians reported that the Russians complained?
- tguvot 3y ago
  For people who follow "this thing", its seriously hard to "find again" sources due to amount of information that created every day. but just for you: https://t.me/fighter_bomber/13797 https://t.me/fighter_bomber/13797 (not sure where from op got his news)
- endchanted 3y ago
  Sure, check Fighterbomber's TG
- ChumpGPT 3y ago
  Russian Military blogger on Telegram. He spoke about the attack and the challenges, Ukraine said that 13 of the 16 made it to the intended targets. There will be video or satellite imagery released at some point. I tend to believe these reports since I understand who is providing the targeting information with precise coordinates and information. You can believe what you like.
  - rjzzleep 3y ago
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    - KeplerBoy 3y ago
      it's called fog of war for a reason. You shouldn't take anything at face value.
    - ChumpGPT 3y ago
      This was about the Australian drone and it's possible potential as an extremely cheap and powerful weapon. The reason it's even in the news is because they were used recently and the imagery of a downed drone and attack location was released by the Russians, not the Ukrainians. Somehow your response has turned into a tirade against Ukraine and their claims and every other grievance you have for Ukraine.
      - rjzzleep 3y ago
        This is about accountability. When a person constantly lies you cannot just take their claims at face value. All the things I wrote were official statements from Ukrainian government officials including the Ukrainian MoD. As such there is currently no data corroborating the claims that the Australian drone is as good as it claims. What we do know so far is that the Geran(Shahed) and the Lancets have shown to be quite deadly for the reasons mentioned above. Although the Geran is not a loitering munition. It is entirely possible that the Australian drone is performing as well, but as of now there is no such data. The last drone that was seen in the battlefields from the Ukrainian side was the switchblade and it was orders of magnitude more expensive than the Australian one and performed abysmal. One thing to note here is that the Russians according to most western publications[1] have been quite successful at jamming GPS guided munition, so even if it is as successful as the Ukrainians claim it will probably not be a game changer in this conflict. [1] https://www.economist.com/special-report/2023/07/03/the-latest-in-the-battle-of-jamming-with-electronic-beams https://www.economist.com/special-report/2023/07/03/the-late...
        threeseed 3y ago
        Your post is so ridiculous it's actually hilarious. The Australian drone is literally made of cardboard. No one is thinking that it will be a game-changer nor that it is anyway comparable to a high-end, military-spec drone from Iran, US, UK or whoever else. It's designed to be cheap, throwaway and if it is even moderately successful at avoiding detection then I am sure that's just a bonus.
- nradov 3y ago
  There was an unconfirmed report today that Ukrainian forces used drones to destroy several Russian aircraft at the Kursk airbase. I wouldn't take it seriously until we see something from an independent source, or satellite imagery. https://news.yahoo.com/russia-kursk-airbase-suffers-major-165100378.html https://news.yahoo.com/russia-kursk-airbase-suffers-major-16...
jncfhnb 3y ago
This is not specific to these specific cardboard drones. These cardboard ones are cool but hardly a game changer

rjzzleep 3y ago

Source please? The Russians complained? Or the Ukrainians reported that the Russians complained?

tguvot 3y ago
For people who follow "this thing", its seriously hard to "find again" sources due to amount of information that created every day. but just for you: https://t.me/fighter_bomber/13797 https://t.me/fighter_bomber/13797 (not sure where from op got his news)
endchanted 3y ago
Sure, check Fighterbomber's TG
ChumpGPT 3y ago
Russian Military blogger on Telegram. He spoke about the attack and the challenges, Ukraine said that 13 of the 16 made it to the intended targets. There will be video or satellite imagery released at some point. I tend to believe these reports since I understand who is providing the targeting information with precise coordinates and information. You can believe what you like.
- rjzzleep 3y ago
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  - KeplerBoy 3y ago
    it's called fog of war for a reason. You shouldn't take anything at face value.
  - ChumpGPT 3y ago
    This was about the Australian drone and it's possible potential as an extremely cheap and powerful weapon. The reason it's even in the news is because they were used recently and the imagery of a downed drone and attack location was released by the Russians, not the Ukrainians. Somehow your response has turned into a tirade against Ukraine and their claims and every other grievance you have for Ukraine.
    - rjzzleep 3y ago
      This is about accountability. When a person constantly lies you cannot just take their claims at face value. All the things I wrote were official statements from Ukrainian government officials including the Ukrainian MoD. As such there is currently no data corroborating the claims that the Australian drone is as good as it claims. What we do know so far is that the Geran(Shahed) and the Lancets have shown to be quite deadly for the reasons mentioned above. Although the Geran is not a loitering munition. It is entirely possible that the Australian drone is performing as well, but as of now there is no such data. The last drone that was seen in the battlefields from the Ukrainian side was the switchblade and it was orders of magnitude more expensive than the Australian one and performed abysmal. One thing to note here is that the Russians according to most western publications[1] have been quite successful at jamming GPS guided munition, so even if it is as successful as the Ukrainians claim it will probably not be a game changer in this conflict. [1] https://www.economist.com/special-report/2023/07/03/the-latest-in-the-battle-of-jamming-with-electronic-beams https://www.economist.com/special-report/2023/07/03/the-late...
      - threeseed 3y ago
        Your post is so ridiculous it's actually hilarious. The Australian drone is literally made of cardboard. No one is thinking that it will be a game-changer nor that it is anyway comparable to a high-end, military-spec drone from Iran, US, UK or whoever else. It's designed to be cheap, throwaway and if it is even moderately successful at avoiding detection then I am sure that's just a bonus.
nradov 3y ago
There was an unconfirmed report today that Ukrainian forces used drones to destroy several Russian aircraft at the Kursk airbase. I wouldn't take it seriously until we see something from an independent source, or satellite imagery. https://news.yahoo.com/russia-kursk-airbase-suffers-major-165100378.html https://news.yahoo.com/russia-kursk-airbase-suffers-major-16...

jncfhnb 3y ago

This is not specific to these specific cardboard drones. These cardboard ones are cool but hardly a game changer