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Where is new wave of migrants coming from? It feels like it's always on the US to accept them all. Where's the rest of the first world in this?

by tayo42 3y ago

SonOfKyuss 3y ago
Take a look at Europe if you really think this is exclusive to the US
- ChumpGPT 3y ago
  The US takes in more immigrants every year than any other nation on earth.
  - wwtdtgotiatl 3y ago
    That is so ridiculously wrong it barely deserves a reply. The US is ~3 per 1000 NOM, its not high at all whether we are talking advanced economies or global South
    - ChumpGPT 3y ago
      Which country takes in more? Name one country that has taken more?
      - yuyuyi 3y ago
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    - haldujai 3y ago
      It’s not as simple as you’re saying but you’re also a bit off for the record. Annual net migration per 1000: Of all countries the US ranks #39. Of developed countries with a population > 10M the US ranks #8 (#9 if you include Saudi Arabia but that’s obviously misleading). The countries ahead of us are Australia, Canada, Spain, Belgium, Sweden, UK and Italy. Of developed countries with a population > 5M the US ranks #14. This adds New Zealand, Switzerland, Singapore, Norway, Ireland and Austria. Normalizing to population also comes with various considerations. For further perspective: in terms of foreign born population the US is #1 with about 50 million in total as well as annually with 2 million per year (countered by 1 million emigrants to get your total of a net 3/1000). This is a whopping 15% of the US population, 18% of the total migrant population in the world and 28% of the migrant population in high income countries. Normalizing to population the migrant proportion is 14% in all high income countries and 12% in developed countries. While these numbers are also challenging to interpret as all of these nations have different immigration needs and migrant patterns I wouldn’t call the US “not high at all”. Feel free to correct me if I missed a country.
morelisp 3y ago
> It feels like it's always on the US to accept them all. Your feeling is not backed by actual data.
- tayo42 3y ago
  There are European countries accepting more people then the US is?
  - morelisp 3y ago
    Germany had 1.2e6 show up last year (~1e6 from Ukraine, ~200k from places the US fucked up). https://www.dw.com/en/migration-to-germany-to-hit-12-million-in-2022-report/a-63978746 https://www.dw.com/en/migration-to-germany-to-hit-12-million... The US admitted 22465. https://www.statista.com/statistics/200061/number-of-refugees-arriving-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/200061/number-of-refugee... They are considering 125k in 2023. https://www.state.gov/refugee-admissions/ https://www.state.gov/refugee-admissions/ Turkey is absolutely overwhelmed, hosting 10% of all global refugees. (Also mostly from US fuckups.) https://www.unrefugees.org/refugee-facts/statistics/ https://www.unrefugees.org/refugee-facts/statistics/
    - happytoexplain 3y ago
      >1.2e6 >22465 >125k Standardized representation, please! Edit: The parent has chosen partisanship (in a reply that may or may not still exist), so I've copy-pasted the parent and done the editing myself for convenience (I am not endorsing this research): Germany had 1200k show up last year (~1000k from Ukraine, ~200k from places the US fucked up). https://www.dw.com/en/migration-to-germany-to-hit-12-million https://www.dw.com/en/migration-to-germany-to-hit-12-million... The US admitted ~22k. https://www.statista.com/statistics/200061/number-of-refugee https://www.statista.com/statistics/200061/number-of-refugee... They are considering 125k in 2023. https://www.state.gov/refugee-admissions/ https://www.state.gov/refugee-admissions/ Turkey is absolutely overwhelmed, hosting 10% of all global refugees. (Also mostly from US fuckups.) https://www.unrefugees.org/refugee-facts/statistics/ https://www.unrefugees.org/refugee-facts/statistics/
sentinalien 3y ago
Lots of first world countries take in more immigrants per capita than the US

Where is new wave of migrants coming from? It feels like it's always on the US to accept them all. Where's the rest of the first world in this?

by tayo42 3y ago

Where is new wave of migrants coming from? It feels like it's always on the US to accept them all. Where's the rest of the first world in this?

SonOfKyuss 3y ago

Take a look at Europe if you really think this is exclusive to the US

ChumpGPT 3y ago
The US takes in more immigrants every year than any other nation on earth.
- wwtdtgotiatl 3y ago
  That is so ridiculously wrong it barely deserves a reply. The US is ~3 per 1000 NOM, its not high at all whether we are talking advanced economies or global South
  - ChumpGPT 3y ago
    Which country takes in more? Name one country that has taken more?
    - yuyuyi 3y ago
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  - haldujai 3y ago
    It’s not as simple as you’re saying but you’re also a bit off for the record. Annual net migration per 1000: Of all countries the US ranks #39. Of developed countries with a population > 10M the US ranks #8 (#9 if you include Saudi Arabia but that’s obviously misleading). The countries ahead of us are Australia, Canada, Spain, Belgium, Sweden, UK and Italy. Of developed countries with a population > 5M the US ranks #14. This adds New Zealand, Switzerland, Singapore, Norway, Ireland and Austria. Normalizing to population also comes with various considerations. For further perspective: in terms of foreign born population the US is #1 with about 50 million in total as well as annually with 2 million per year (countered by 1 million emigrants to get your total of a net 3/1000). This is a whopping 15% of the US population, 18% of the total migrant population in the world and 28% of the migrant population in high income countries. Normalizing to population the migrant proportion is 14% in all high income countries and 12% in developed countries. While these numbers are also challenging to interpret as all of these nations have different immigration needs and migrant patterns I wouldn’t call the US “not high at all”. Feel free to correct me if I missed a country.

morelisp 3y ago

> It feels like it's always on the US to accept them all. Your feeling is not backed by actual data.

tayo42 3y ago
There are European countries accepting more people then the US is?
- morelisp 3y ago
  Germany had 1.2e6 show up last year (~1e6 from Ukraine, ~200k from places the US fucked up). https://www.dw.com/en/migration-to-germany-to-hit-12-million-in-2022-report/a-63978746 https://www.dw.com/en/migration-to-germany-to-hit-12-million... The US admitted 22465. https://www.statista.com/statistics/200061/number-of-refugees-arriving-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/200061/number-of-refugee... They are considering 125k in 2023. https://www.state.gov/refugee-admissions/ https://www.state.gov/refugee-admissions/ Turkey is absolutely overwhelmed, hosting 10% of all global refugees. (Also mostly from US fuckups.) https://www.unrefugees.org/refugee-facts/statistics/ https://www.unrefugees.org/refugee-facts/statistics/
  - happytoexplain 3y ago
    >1.2e6 >22465 >125k Standardized representation, please! Edit: The parent has chosen partisanship (in a reply that may or may not still exist), so I've copy-pasted the parent and done the editing myself for convenience (I am not endorsing this research): Germany had 1200k show up last year (~1000k from Ukraine, ~200k from places the US fucked up). https://www.dw.com/en/migration-to-germany-to-hit-12-million https://www.dw.com/en/migration-to-germany-to-hit-12-million... The US admitted ~22k. https://www.statista.com/statistics/200061/number-of-refugee https://www.statista.com/statistics/200061/number-of-refugee... They are considering 125k in 2023. https://www.state.gov/refugee-admissions/ https://www.state.gov/refugee-admissions/ Turkey is absolutely overwhelmed, hosting 10% of all global refugees. (Also mostly from US fuckups.) https://www.unrefugees.org/refugee-facts/statistics/ https://www.unrefugees.org/refugee-facts/statistics/

sentinalien 3y ago

Lots of first world countries take in more immigrants per capita than the US