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How does this compare to Node-RED? My impression is that Node-RED is more flexible and extendable than n8n but I've hardly used n8n. By the sound of it Node-RE

How does this compare to Node-RED? My impression is that Node-RED is more flexible and extendable than n8n but I've hardly used n8n. By the sound of it Node-RED has simpler licensing, its completely open source.

ChymeraXYZ 3y ago
I am maintaining a fairly complex set of nodered flows, dealing with some long running tasks performed by other tools. When checking n8n the impression was that it's like a v2 of NodeRed that learned from what NR did wrong. Lots of tools an capabilities you end up wishing for in NR are built into n8n. For example: * data flow is simplified, no one global "msg" var that gets clobbered by every 2nd custom script * you can fairly easily test flows * you can see execution history, including in/out data * you can see exacting flows
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cowthulhu 3y ago
Are you associated with Node-Red?
- Towaway69 3y ago
  Me? No, I just do a lot work with node-red because I enjoy the visual programming experience. I wonder why programs have to be textual when we have tools that can make them visual and thereby more inclusive.
  - claytongulick 3y ago
    > visual and thereby more inclusive. How does making code visual make it more inclusive?
    - solarkraft 3y ago
      Preventing syntax errors/abstracting syntax is probably the most important piece.
    - Towaway69 3y ago
      A picture is worth a 1000 words. Imagery can be simpler to understand for non techies. The more who understand, the more are included in the solution.
      - omniglottal 3y ago
        It does not replace those thousand words. I challenge you to share one picture which replaces a 10-word bash script.
        Towaway69 3y ago
        Challenge accepted, any preference for the 10 word bash script?
        Towaway69 3y ago
        Ok, here's my attempt with a bit of python code: https://flowhub.org/f/91197129247b83b8 https://flowhub.org/f/91197129247b83b8 It's more than 10 words and definitely inconclusive as to whether Python or image is more explanatory. The only good thing is that the image is Node-RED "code" and can actually be executed in Node-RED.
    - smcleod 3y ago
      You can explain and explore complex concepts and designs with folks that aren’t programmers where there would otherwise be a gap.
      - omniglottal 3y ago
        That gap is not filled with images.

ChymeraXYZ 3y ago

I am maintaining a fairly complex set of nodered flows, dealing with some long running tasks performed by other tools. When checking n8n the impression was that it's like a v2 of NodeRed that learned from what NR did wrong. Lots of tools an capabilities you end up wishing for in NR are built into n8n. For example: * data flow is simplified, no one global "msg" var that gets clobbered by every 2nd custom script * you can fairly easily test flows * you can see execution history, including in/out data * you can see exacting flows

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cowthulhu 3y ago

Are you associated with Node-Red?

Towaway69 3y ago
Me? No, I just do a lot work with node-red because I enjoy the visual programming experience. I wonder why programs have to be textual when we have tools that can make them visual and thereby more inclusive.
- claytongulick 3y ago
  > visual and thereby more inclusive. How does making code visual make it more inclusive?
  - solarkraft 3y ago
    Preventing syntax errors/abstracting syntax is probably the most important piece.
  - Towaway69 3y ago
    A picture is worth a 1000 words. Imagery can be simpler to understand for non techies. The more who understand, the more are included in the solution.
    - omniglottal 3y ago
      It does not replace those thousand words. I challenge you to share one picture which replaces a 10-word bash script.
      - Towaway69 3y ago
        Challenge accepted, any preference for the 10 word bash script?
      - Towaway69 3y ago
        Ok, here's my attempt with a bit of python code: https://flowhub.org/f/91197129247b83b8 https://flowhub.org/f/91197129247b83b8 It's more than 10 words and definitely inconclusive as to whether Python or image is more explanatory. The only good thing is that the image is Node-RED "code" and can actually be executed in Node-RED.
  - smcleod 3y ago
    You can explain and explore complex concepts and designs with folks that aren’t programmers where there would otherwise be a gap.
    - omniglottal 3y ago
      That gap is not filled with images.