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Creators who are working with 4K and 8K assets probably need a lot of storage. What do they typically use? Dropbox prices are pretty good. I was looking at eve

Creators who are working with 4K and 8K assets probably need a lot of storage. What do they typically use? Dropbox prices are pretty good. I was looking at even AWS s3 _glacier_ and it seems way more expensive. Does this mean that if everyone used their entire capacity it's like a bank run and Dropbox goes out of business? Or is storage actually cheap and AWS makes big margins on it?

chickenpotpie 3y ago
> Dropbox prices are pretty good. I was looking at even AWS s3 _glacier_ and it seems way more expensive. That's because glacier stores exactly what you tell it to store. Dropbox is taking advantage of a lot of compression techniques to keep their storage volume down. For example, if two users upload the exact same file twice, they can just store it only once (they can also do this for chunks for files that are identical). > Does this mean that if everyone used their entire capacity it's like a bank run and Dropbox goes out of business? Or is storage actually cheap and AWS makes big margins on it? I don't know about a bank run, but Dropbox would most likely go out of business eventually if everyone used their full capacity and they didn't adjust their pricing structure. There's most likely some customers they take losses on to keep their pricing structure simple.
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Dylan16807 3y ago
> Dropbox prices are pretty good. I was looking at even AWS s3 _glacier_ and it seems way more expensive. I'm not sure what you mean? Unless you're grandfathered in, the new limit is 5TB for $24 and glacier would be $5 plus bandwidth fees. And as just one example for competitors, Hetzner offers 5TB of nextcloud for €17 and 5TB of storage for €13. If you're talking about the 35TB limit, yeah that's a great deal and nobody can have it any more. The larger users were subsidized by the smaller users, which is a delicate balance.
Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
You can get 14 TB drives retail for ~$200. That's ~$14.28/TB. I don't know Dropbox's Enterprise storage pricing, but I know Backblaze charges $5/TB for simple cloud storage. That means, ignoring drive failures and redundancy, it takes less than 3 months to RoI on hard drive purchases. With the high level of redundancy these services tend to have, it's probably closer to 1-2 years. On the flip side, AWS S3's standard storage tier is a whopping $23/TB. They're making absolute bank on that. Not to mention their stupidly high egress fees (Which are even higher when using Glacier!) if you ever actually use it.
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  Backblaze just increased it to $6, which is pretty disappointing. Their redundancy is only +18% as of their last post about it. Though don't forget the servers that hold the drives adding another 1/3-ish.

chickenpotpie 3y ago

> Dropbox prices are pretty good. I was looking at even AWS s3 _glacier_ and it seems way more expensive. That's because glacier stores exactly what you tell it to store. Dropbox is taking advantage of a lot of compression techniques to keep their storage volume down. For example, if two users upload the exact same file twice, they can just store it only once (they can also do this for chunks for files that are identical). > Does this mean that if everyone used their entire capacity it's like a bank run and Dropbox goes out of business? Or is storage actually cheap and AWS makes big margins on it? I don't know about a bank run, but Dropbox would most likely go out of business eventually if everyone used their full capacity and they didn't adjust their pricing structure. There's most likely some customers they take losses on to keep their pricing structure simple.

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Dylan16807 3y ago

> Dropbox prices are pretty good. I was looking at even AWS s3 _glacier_ and it seems way more expensive. I'm not sure what you mean? Unless you're grandfathered in, the new limit is 5TB for $24 and glacier would be $5 plus bandwidth fees. And as just one example for competitors, Hetzner offers 5TB of nextcloud for €17 and 5TB of storage for €13. If you're talking about the 35TB limit, yeah that's a great deal and nobody can have it any more. The larger users were subsidized by the smaller users, which is a delicate balance.

Sohcahtoa82 3y ago

You can get 14 TB drives retail for ~$200. That's ~$14.28/TB. I don't know Dropbox's Enterprise storage pricing, but I know Backblaze charges $5/TB for simple cloud storage. That means, ignoring drive failures and redundancy, it takes less than 3 months to RoI on hard drive purchases. With the high level of redundancy these services tend to have, it's probably closer to 1-2 years. On the flip side, AWS S3's standard storage tier is a whopping $23/TB. They're making absolute bank on that. Not to mention their stupidly high egress fees (Which are even higher when using Glacier!) if you ever actually use it.

Dylan16807 3y ago
Backblaze just increased it to $6, which is pretty disappointing. Their redundancy is only +18% as of their last post about it. Though don't forget the servers that hold the drives adding another 1/3-ish.