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Reminds me of Mindustry https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.anuke.mindustry/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.anuke.mindustry/ But it looks like Factorio was

Reminds me of Mindustry https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.anuke.mindustry/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.anuke.mindustry/ But it looks like Factorio was first.

Olreich 3y ago
Factorio inspired a lot of factory games you're seeing: Mindustry, Shapez.io, Satisfactory, Techtonica, Dyson Sphere Program, etc. One of the devs have stated that they were inspired to create Factorio by the IndustrialCraft and BuildCraft mods for Minecraft, and I suspect that things like Infinifactory were also inspirations.
- Macha 3y ago
  The first public announcement of Factorio was actually on the industrialcraft forums, if I remember right.
- sumtechguy 3y ago
  oh boy Dyson Sphere is my jam. Especially once they added in blueprints. I honestly am not looking forward to the enemy expansion they are going to add. I can see they promised it and want to deliver on it but I do not really want to fight off waves of enemies. I just want to build a huge factory. It is one of the things that keeps me from really getting into factorio. Was going to get a mod to turn them off. But never got around to it.
  - Macha 3y ago
    > Was going to get a mod to turn them off. But never got around to it. You can turn them off in world generation, no mod needed, for what it's worth.
  - jdpedrie 3y ago
    You can disable enemies in the game setup, no mod required.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - jcranmer 3y ago
    > I honestly am not looking forward to the enemy expansion they are going to add. I have the same trepidation in DSP, and I'm hoping they at least take the same tack as Factorio and allow enemies to be turned off entirely. While there is a little bit of fun in trying to design self-sustaining defense lines in Factorio, I never found that enjoyment worth the effort of having to clear out the enemies to build ever-larger factories. Well, except for Clusterio Gridlock event. In that event, given that you were starting the map with 40x mining productivity and similar bonuses, and were playing with 100+ other people, giving you awkward map layouts with high enemy growth was just about the only way to make it interesting.
  - Aeolun 3y ago
    I am. Once you get past a certain point in DSP there’s just no point in continuing. I’ve two playthroughs that ended roughly when I can sends ships on interplanetary errants without worrying abou how many warp cores I consume.
    - Brybry 3y ago
      My issue at that point in DSP is that performance severely degrades (and save files get huge too). You're penalized for building big dyson spheres (and even more penalized if you have graphics turned on for them). You're penalized for building on more planets/system (and rewarded for cleaning up old structures, even if they're no longer actually doing anything). I hope the combat patch comes with a lot of performance enhancements for existing content...
  - Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
    > It is one of the things that keeps me from really getting into factorio. Was going to get a mod to turn them off. But never got around to it. Uh...you've been able to play Factorio in a peaceful mode without a mod for years. It's just a checkbox when you're creating your world. And I imagine when DSP gets the combat update, it'll have the same checkbox.
- willis936 3y ago
  The spirit of the original lives on. Gregtech Community Edition Unofficial (GTCEu) is getting regular updates. I'm almost finished with my first modded minecraft run since the GT5U days. The GTCEu folks are great. They implemented a lot of changes that GT has been needing for a decade, specifically around closed loop control and HMI. It's close to what I idealize in my head for an industrial game. Maybe there's a smidge too much chemistry and not enough fusion. If anyone's curious to try it: the Gregtech Community Pack is the way to go. The questbook is near essential for anyone who hasn't already played through the mod. AE2 is also near essential. Also, I recommend prism launcher.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    GregTech: New Horizons is also worth a look, if only for the detailed quests and absolutely insane progression required.
    - willis936 3y ago
      I did get through LV with a railcar wood farm and coke oven array before I called it in. I had a very diverse food gen and all sorts of farms. It was neat, but I have to say GCP with teleporting and chunk loading really scratches the itch without all the waiting around or microcrafting.
      - bombcar 3y ago
        A lot of those "quested Minecraft modpacks" end up being amazingly fun if the quests match your play style. If not, not so much. If you avoid going the "expected path" it can become a huge slog.
Kiro 3y ago
I find it fascinating that you know about Mindustry but not Factorio. It's like being into block games but not know what Minecraft is.
- willis936 3y ago
  I don't like this analogy. Block games and industrial games all are absolutely and relatively unique. The relative success (and arguably quality) of minecraft compared to other block games is much higher than that of factorio relative to industrial games. This is mostly due to block games have much wider appeal than industrial games. All standout games in both categories were well thought out and required large effort from the creators.
  - Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
    I think you misunderstood the analogy. Knowing of Mindustry but not Factorio is like knowing Roblox but not Minecraft. It's like knowing Arch Linux, but somehow never hearing about Ubuntu.
    - willis936 3y ago
      It might make sense if Minecraft was only on Mac while Roblox was on Mac and Windows. You can only play factorio from a desktop while all manner of machine can play mindustry. There are entire audiences that do not game on PC.
      - BlueTemplar 3y ago
        Well, not anymore with Factorio on Switch since October 2022 (and of course, Steam Deck), but thanks, this was illuminating.
        willis936 3y ago
        And what of the audiences that own no consoles but game on their phones? Non-mobile game sales are already a footnote by comparison. It should be little surprise that there are people who have not heard of factorio but have heard of mindustry simply due to what people are exposed to. https://www.statista.com/forecasts/455655/digital-game-revenue-category-digital-market-outlook-usa https://www.statista.com/forecasts/455655/digital-game-reven...

Reminds me of Mindustry https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.anuke.mindustry/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.anuke.mindustry/ But it looks like Factorio was first.

Olreich 3y ago

Factorio inspired a lot of factory games you're seeing: Mindustry, Shapez.io, Satisfactory, Techtonica, Dyson Sphere Program, etc. One of the devs have stated that they were inspired to create Factorio by the IndustrialCraft and BuildCraft mods for Minecraft, and I suspect that things like Infinifactory were also inspirations.

Macha 3y ago
The first public announcement of Factorio was actually on the industrialcraft forums, if I remember right.
sumtechguy 3y ago
oh boy Dyson Sphere is my jam. Especially once they added in blueprints. I honestly am not looking forward to the enemy expansion they are going to add. I can see they promised it and want to deliver on it but I do not really want to fight off waves of enemies. I just want to build a huge factory. It is one of the things that keeps me from really getting into factorio. Was going to get a mod to turn them off. But never got around to it.
- Macha 3y ago
  > Was going to get a mod to turn them off. But never got around to it. You can turn them off in world generation, no mod needed, for what it's worth.
- jdpedrie 3y ago
  You can disable enemies in the game setup, no mod required.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- jcranmer 3y ago
  > I honestly am not looking forward to the enemy expansion they are going to add. I have the same trepidation in DSP, and I'm hoping they at least take the same tack as Factorio and allow enemies to be turned off entirely. While there is a little bit of fun in trying to design self-sustaining defense lines in Factorio, I never found that enjoyment worth the effort of having to clear out the enemies to build ever-larger factories. Well, except for Clusterio Gridlock event. In that event, given that you were starting the map with 40x mining productivity and similar bonuses, and were playing with 100+ other people, giving you awkward map layouts with high enemy growth was just about the only way to make it interesting.
- Aeolun 3y ago
  I am. Once you get past a certain point in DSP there’s just no point in continuing. I’ve two playthroughs that ended roughly when I can sends ships on interplanetary errants without worrying abou how many warp cores I consume.
  - Brybry 3y ago
    My issue at that point in DSP is that performance severely degrades (and save files get huge too). You're penalized for building big dyson spheres (and even more penalized if you have graphics turned on for them). You're penalized for building on more planets/system (and rewarded for cleaning up old structures, even if they're no longer actually doing anything). I hope the combat patch comes with a lot of performance enhancements for existing content...
- Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
  > It is one of the things that keeps me from really getting into factorio. Was going to get a mod to turn them off. But never got around to it. Uh...you've been able to play Factorio in a peaceful mode without a mod for years. It's just a checkbox when you're creating your world. And I imagine when DSP gets the combat update, it'll have the same checkbox.
willis936 3y ago
The spirit of the original lives on. Gregtech Community Edition Unofficial (GTCEu) is getting regular updates. I'm almost finished with my first modded minecraft run since the GT5U days. The GTCEu folks are great. They implemented a lot of changes that GT has been needing for a decade, specifically around closed loop control and HMI. It's close to what I idealize in my head for an industrial game. Maybe there's a smidge too much chemistry and not enough fusion. If anyone's curious to try it: the Gregtech Community Pack is the way to go. The questbook is near essential for anyone who hasn't already played through the mod. AE2 is also near essential. Also, I recommend prism launcher.
- bombcar 3y ago
  GregTech: New Horizons is also worth a look, if only for the detailed quests and absolutely insane progression required.
  - willis936 3y ago
    I did get through LV with a railcar wood farm and coke oven array before I called it in. I had a very diverse food gen and all sorts of farms. It was neat, but I have to say GCP with teleporting and chunk loading really scratches the itch without all the waiting around or microcrafting.
    - bombcar 3y ago
      A lot of those "quested Minecraft modpacks" end up being amazingly fun if the quests match your play style. If not, not so much. If you avoid going the "expected path" it can become a huge slog.

Kiro 3y ago

I find it fascinating that you know about Mindustry but not Factorio. It's like being into block games but not know what Minecraft is.

willis936 3y ago
I don't like this analogy. Block games and industrial games all are absolutely and relatively unique. The relative success (and arguably quality) of minecraft compared to other block games is much higher than that of factorio relative to industrial games. This is mostly due to block games have much wider appeal than industrial games. All standout games in both categories were well thought out and required large effort from the creators.
- Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
  I think you misunderstood the analogy. Knowing of Mindustry but not Factorio is like knowing Roblox but not Minecraft. It's like knowing Arch Linux, but somehow never hearing about Ubuntu.
  - willis936 3y ago
    It might make sense if Minecraft was only on Mac while Roblox was on Mac and Windows. You can only play factorio from a desktop while all manner of machine can play mindustry. There are entire audiences that do not game on PC.
    - BlueTemplar 3y ago
      Well, not anymore with Factorio on Switch since October 2022 (and of course, Steam Deck), but thanks, this was illuminating.
      - willis936 3y ago
        And what of the audiences that own no consoles but game on their phones? Non-mobile game sales are already a footnote by comparison. It should be little surprise that there are people who have not heard of factorio but have heard of mindustry simply due to what people are exposed to. https://www.statista.com/forecasts/455655/digital-game-revenue-category-digital-market-outlook-usa https://www.statista.com/forecasts/455655/digital-game-reven...