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Indeed no pitchforks, but I can see where some concern has come from. On the release of Windows 11 it was stated that only newer Intel and AMD generations were

Indeed no pitchforks, but I can see where some concern has come from. On the release of Windows 11 it was stated that only newer Intel and AMD generations were to be officially supported and while workarounds are built in (literally a registry flag in the installer) to install on even a Pentium 4 [1], they came with a warning from Microsoft that installations in such environments "may not receive updates". Is it therefore possible that this bug check is being implemented as part of the journey towards actually dropping "support" for these CPUs? Indeed, it's a preview release, and the Insider program is amazing for getting insight into Windows development and it shouldn't be held up to the same level of journalistic scrutiny as a sanctioned general release, but I can absolutely see why this particular change may have raised some eyebrows. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivrlU73VcHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivrlU73VcHw

tracker1 3y ago
I was on insiders for years, switched for WSL1... I switched over to using Linux as my personal desktop OS when I first say ad results in the Windows start menu search. It may have been preview, but was just one thing too far that someone would even consider it. I still have a windows drive in my desktop, I only booted into it once a few months ago to update my ssd/nvme firmware (samsung bugfix).
tw04 3y ago
> Is it therefore possible that this bug check is being implemented as part of the journey towards actually dropping "support" for these CPUs? That seems entirely possible. That being said, I'm not sure I'm going to be upset about them dropping support for a 20-year old CPU built on an architecture that I think is pretty widely accepted as a failure.
- auguzanellato 3y ago
  > I'm not sure I'm going to be upset about them dropping support for a 20-year old CPU Windows 11 doesn’t support CPUs that are 6 years old (Intel 7th gen) that are still ok by today standards
- toasteros 3y ago
  The Pentium 4 is an extreme example, and I admit I used it quite dishonestly to over-emphasise the fact that Windows 11 runs on CPUs that it claims not to support. A 7th or 6th gen Intel would run Windows 11 quite well, unlike a Pentium 4 which struggles a great deal with it. Despite that, without workarounds, you cannot install Win 11 on one of these CPUs. You must have an 8th gen or later.
- hypercube33 3y ago
  The two I saw on Reddit having this bsod were on 13th gen Intel so I'm not sure but I'd guess some issue handling p and e core transitions is causing the problem.
arprocter 3y ago
I see the buggy 'preview' updates offered on all my Windows 10 and 11 machines, and none of them are signed up for Insider
- mig39 3y ago
  Preview means preview. It doesn't automatically download and install. You have to actually opt in and download the preview. Then you'll be part of the preview :-)
  - arprocter 3y ago
    10 does state "Optional" but 11 doesn't (although there is an x to dismiss it) These always struck me as an odd middle ground between regular updates and Insider fwiw my very 'unsupported' 11 Dell box seems okay with this update installed. All the Reddit folks getting the error are on Intel MSI boards

tracker1 3y ago

I was on insiders for years, switched for WSL1... I switched over to using Linux as my personal desktop OS when I first say ad results in the Windows start menu search. It may have been preview, but was just one thing too far that someone would even consider it. I still have a windows drive in my desktop, I only booted into it once a few months ago to update my ssd/nvme firmware (samsung bugfix).

tw04 3y ago

> Is it therefore possible that this bug check is being implemented as part of the journey towards actually dropping "support" for these CPUs? That seems entirely possible. That being said, I'm not sure I'm going to be upset about them dropping support for a 20-year old CPU built on an architecture that I think is pretty widely accepted as a failure.

auguzanellato 3y ago
> I'm not sure I'm going to be upset about them dropping support for a 20-year old CPU Windows 11 doesn’t support CPUs that are 6 years old (Intel 7th gen) that are still ok by today standards
toasteros 3y ago
The Pentium 4 is an extreme example, and I admit I used it quite dishonestly to over-emphasise the fact that Windows 11 runs on CPUs that it claims not to support. A 7th or 6th gen Intel would run Windows 11 quite well, unlike a Pentium 4 which struggles a great deal with it. Despite that, without workarounds, you cannot install Win 11 on one of these CPUs. You must have an 8th gen or later.
hypercube33 3y ago
The two I saw on Reddit having this bsod were on 13th gen Intel so I'm not sure but I'd guess some issue handling p and e core transitions is causing the problem.

arprocter 3y ago

I see the buggy 'preview' updates offered on all my Windows 10 and 11 machines, and none of them are signed up for Insider

mig39 3y ago
Preview means preview. It doesn't automatically download and install. You have to actually opt in and download the preview. Then you'll be part of the preview :-)
- arprocter 3y ago
  10 does state "Optional" but 11 doesn't (although there is an x to dismiss it) These always struck me as an odd middle ground between regular updates and Insider fwiw my very 'unsupported' 11 Dell box seems okay with this update installed. All the Reddit folks getting the error are on Intel MSI boards