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> They didn't "just" send a PR or "just" write some code, they made a financial tool which earned them millions while ignoring regulations for these type of fin

> They didn't "just" send a PR or "just" write some code, they made a financial tool which earned them millions while ignoring regulations for these type of financial tools. No one who sent a PR was arrested or even investigated: just the people running Tornado. This has been pointed out time and time again. Since TC is still running with both guys in jail, they clearly weren't "running it" - but the Ethereum node operators are. Should they be arrested? Are you answering this question as a laywer, or as citizen engaged in the democratic process telling me what you feel the law should be?

arp242 3y ago
They were developing it and making money from it, so that's "running it" by all but the most boring pedantic definition. Ethereum is a protocol and a tool, which Tornado used it to knowingly profit from illegal transactions. Ethereum is somewhat akin (not identical) to USD, and Tornado somewhat akin to a bank operating with USD outside of the law. I was unaware I need to get a university law degree before commenting here.
- Hizonner 3y ago
  Laws are all about boring pedantic definitions. And when you talk about what counts as ignoring laws, or about what consequences people "can expect", those definitions matter.
  - arp242 3y ago
    I am obviously not argueing this case in court here, and expecting the same standard from random HN commentors is not reasonable. The basic facts from my previous comment are accurate and have been widely reported for a long time, and it's pretty clear what's intended. Trying to nitpick on the exact language as some form of "rebuke" is not exactly constructive.
- miracle2k 3y ago
  > Ethereum is somewhat akin (not identical) to USD, and Tornado somewhat akin to a bank operating with USD outside of the law. Many people are arguing that Ethereum node operators should be on the hook when they facilitate Tornado Cash transactions through their participation on the network. I'm glad we can count on your support should such arguments ever be pursued legally. Thank you.

arp242 3y ago

They were developing it and making money from it, so that's "running it" by all but the most boring pedantic definition. Ethereum is a protocol and a tool, which Tornado used it to knowingly profit from illegal transactions. Ethereum is somewhat akin (not identical) to USD, and Tornado somewhat akin to a bank operating with USD outside of the law. I was unaware I need to get a university law degree before commenting here.

Hizonner 3y ago
Laws are all about boring pedantic definitions. And when you talk about what counts as ignoring laws, or about what consequences people "can expect", those definitions matter.
- arp242 3y ago
  I am obviously not argueing this case in court here, and expecting the same standard from random HN commentors is not reasonable. The basic facts from my previous comment are accurate and have been widely reported for a long time, and it's pretty clear what's intended. Trying to nitpick on the exact language as some form of "rebuke" is not exactly constructive.
miracle2k 3y ago
> Ethereum is somewhat akin (not identical) to USD, and Tornado somewhat akin to a bank operating with USD outside of the law. Many people are arguing that Ethereum node operators should be on the hook when they facilitate Tornado Cash transactions through their participation on the network. I'm glad we can count on your support should such arguments ever be pursued legally. Thank you.