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SpaceX working with Cloudflare to speed up Starlink service
- SOLAR_FIELDS 3y agoAny indication of whether the vague “2023” promise for the large swathe of Eastern United States availability will actually come to fruition? Or is it like Autopilot in that it will perpetually be 6 months in the future?
- krys1010 3y agoI got my starlink two weeks ago. East Tennessee
- inemesitaffia 3y agoIf you're in the most densely populated part of the US, I suggest it won't get to you
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- kanbara 3y agonot at all the same thing; elon, like all people, is fallible. he's not an engineer and CEO and visionary and project manager and salesperson. he's just a salesperson who likes engineering and didn't finish his college degree. as you can already see, aligning with conservative fascists on twitter/X isn't really doubt free. also he doesn't design starlink, thousands of engineers do.
- xedeon 3y ago> not at all the same thing; elon, like all people, is fallible. he's not an engineer and CEO and visionary and project manager and salesperson. he's just a salesperson who likes engineering and didn't finish his college degree. Elon Musk obtained a B.A. in Physics and a B.S. in economics from the University of Pennsylvania, with concentrations in finance and entrepreneurial management. These degrees were officially conferred on May 19, 1997. Sources: 1. Ron Ozio, Director of Media Relations at the University of Pennsylvania, confirmed Elon Musk's educational background. The information can be found at: https://undergrad.wharton.upenn.edu/alumni-leaders/ https://undergrad.wharton.upenn.edu/alumni-leaders/ | (Elon Musk, C’97, W’97) https://magazine.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/fall-2010/he-wont-back-down/ https://magazine.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/fall-2010/he-wont-... 2. Additional information about Elon Musk's education can be found at: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Elon-Musk#ref341081 https://www.britannica.com/biography/Elon-Musk#ref341081 It's fascinating how some individuals still spew blatantly false information online when it's easily verifiable. All for a lame attempt to dunk on someone.
- 7e 3y agoHe claimed to have been admitted into graduate program at Stanford. That was likely just the masters program. Regardless, that’s the “didn’t finish part” as he admitted he dropped out. His BA diploma is missing any reference to physics. This is the same school that graduated Donald Trump. More doubt here: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/musk-physics-degree/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/musk-physics-degree/
- ryzvonusef 3y agofrom your own link: >In 2019, Aaron Greenspan, owner of the legal website Plainsite, as well as a frequent critic of, and litigant against, Elon Musk, asked Penn for a statement on Musk's degrees. In response, the university's public affairs office stated that: >>Elon Musk earned a B.A. in physics and a B.S. in economics (concentrations: finance and entrepreneurial management) from the University of Pennsylvania. The degrees were awarded on May 19, 1997. If the university itself says they awarded him the degree, then I am not sure what the issue is?
- panick21_ 3y agoThe issue is that you dont live in delusional fantasy world created people with irrational hate for Musk.
- thejazzman 3y agoI wonder if we'll ever find out what his employees are doing. Aren't there tens of thousands? Just sitting around while Elon does all this stuff? Truly incredible!
- panick21_ 3y agoWhy do for Musk companies play this game? CEO gets a lot of credit if he has the right strategy, invests in the right place and puts the right people in control. Musk a few years ago fired Starlink leadership and took more control and evalute new leaders. Many on HN were doing the usual "haha Musk an idiot" thing but he decitions have clearly lead to a successful program. If Musk was the CEO for a year and Starlink was develope before, he might be getting to much credit. But he has literally been in charge for 20 years now. Literally everybody understands that SpaceX has lots if people working on these projects.
- signa11 3y agothis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridium_satellite_constellation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridium_satellite_constellatio... does not count?
- Dylan16807 3y agoThe price difference is so vast that I would not call it "like Starlink".
- inemesitaffia 3y agoOnly people who haven't used both would dare link to it
- duttonw 3y agoexcept for the issue where Elon just on a whim decided to geofence the spaceX usage in Ukraine/Russia conflict to not allow it to work when near the border or in Russia :/ per article: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-sha...
- diebeforei485 3y agoUkraine wanted it for defensive reasons within their own territory. It's totally reasonable that a free service has limits.
- FreshStart 3y agoIt stopped working on there own territory
- wojciii 3y agoCrimea is Ukrainian territory illegally invaded and annexed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_...
- inemesitaffia 3y agoAnd is illegal to provide internet services in
- fooker 3y agoIt was actively used to guide a missile. There is no precedent for this, and it was a credible question whether Russia would use anti satellite weapons triggering a larger war.
- hoseja 3y agoTrying not to get ITAR restricted.
- panick21_ 3y ago
- pschuegr 3y agoDomain expertise does not transfer to all domains, and Elon seems like he's trying to speed-run that lesson for $44b.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 3y agoOne does not simply run a content management website: https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/02/hey-elon-let-me-help-you-speed-run-the-content-moderation-learning-curve/ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/02/hey-elon-let-me-help-you... As you implied, reductively saying “running a website where you post 280 characters is something that is easy for someone who is good at running companies that are good at doing other things” is laughably untrue.
- shaklee3 3y agoStarlink is not as amazing as it's made out to be. There have been many LEO constellations before it, but due to the space industry as a whole being unattractive to investors, it didn't get any attention until musk got into it. Starlink as a technology is nothing new; what is new is their launch cadence that gives them the ability to put so many satellites into space. They are still not making money and will require starship before that happens. You can look at other ventures like one web that just didn't get the press that starlink got despite having similar characteristics. Vertical integration with the launch is the only thing that starlink apart technology wise.
- kierank 3y agoSpaceX deliberately doesn't make money as they want to invest as much as possible into going to Mars.
- shaklee3 3y agoThat's not how VC investments work
- yencabulator 3y agoLots of VCs will happily eat a loss for many years if it gives them a larger piece of the future pie. See Uber.
- shaklee3 3y agoNobody was arguing that point. I'm disputing the fact that Starlink, as a satellite internet service technology, is doing anything new. The launch cadence due to SpaceX's progress on rockets has nothing to do with the Starlink side.
- yencabulator 3y agoShow me a non-Starlink satellite internet service widely available that can reach 200+ Mbps for a smallish fixed monthly cost.
- throwaway888abc 3y agocf-cache-status: HIT server: cloudflare cf-ray: 7fb85d282df8221e-MOON yeah, maybe few space based edge nodes ? makes totally sense
- dzhiurgis 3y agoWould space DNS enable some sort form of unblockable twitter/x?
- 7e 3y agoStarlink latency is still too high, and goodput is too low, especially as they oversubscribe their service. This will help a bit, but it’s no panacea for Starlink’s woes.
- fooker 3y agoStarlink latency is too high if your server is nearby. If it’s on the other side of the earth it beats everything.
- dzhiurgis 3y agoDo they actually route all the way across planet using laser interlinks? Are there any tests by someone?
- raphaelj 3y agoMy guess is that they do not. Routing these packets around the planet would be a huge waste of their limited electrical and transmission resources.
- dzhiurgis 3y agoPremium plans would fix that...
- panick21_ 3y agoThey have both sats with and without lasers. Starlink with lasers are still being rolled out. So it will depend very much from where to where. The certaintly can go direct. It would be interesting to know their internal routing logic but I don't think we know.
- yencabulator 3y agoYou seem to have forgotten the slogan "Better than nothing". Starlink is the best ISP available to me, and some 10-20x better than its competition. If you can do better with something else, please do.
- pr337h4m 3y ago>Starlink is one of a growing number of makers of small satellites that are focused on providing satellite-based internet, including Amazon.com's (AMZN.O) Kuiper, Britain's OneWeb and venture capital-backed Planet. Planet is in the earth observation business, not satellite internet
- mlindner 3y agoAnd Amazon hasn’t launched any satellites yet and appears to be still years away from a production constellation.
- mcpherrinm 3y agoThis article is very vague, but I’ve heard complaints on HN before about Starlink cgnat not working well with Cloudflare. Is this just announcing Starlink is peering privately with Cloudflare now, perhaps solving some of those issues? Or is this some bigger partnership where Cloudflare is running some portion of Starlink’s internet connectivity? Most other reporting online is just parroting this Reuters piece so I haven’t seen much interesting additional info.
- aaron695 3y ago[dead]