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On the other hand, political speeches on such occasions go down as most remembered historically. The infamous quote "One small step for man, one giant leap for

by pyeri 3y ago

On the other hand, political speeches on such occasions go down as most remembered historically. The infamous quote "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." was obviously said by some politician! (or at least with non-technical motives)

flavius29663 3y ago
Also, "we're going to the moon not because it's easy, but because it's hard"
- ethbr1 3y ago
  The full version of that section is more amusing but forgotten >> But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may as well ask: why climb the highest mountain? Why 35 years ago fly the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas? We choose to go to the moon {applause} We choose to go to the moon... {applause} We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard -- because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills -- because that challenge is one we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win. (And the others too) (as spoken and delivered at Rice University in Houston, Texas, referencing the Rice-Texas American football rivalry, where Texas is a 10x larger university) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QXqlziZV63k&t=9m22s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QXqlziZV63k&t=9m22s https://www.jfklibrary.org/sites/default/files/archives/JFKPOF/040/JFKPOF-040-001/JFKPOF-040-001-p0032.jpg https://www.jfklibrary.org/sites/default/files/archives/JFKP... Congratulations to ISRO (and all of India) for doing not the thing that was easy, but the thing that was hard and valuable!
dotnet00 3y ago
They want to go down in the history books the way JFK's "we choose to go to the Moon" did without experiencing the "mind-blowing" event afterwards that made the speech historical.
granularity 3y ago
Here's the actual story about that quote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Armstrong#First_Moon_walk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Armstrong#First_Moon_walk
adolph 3y ago
> The infamous quote "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." What makes the quote infamous rather than just famous?
- firebat45 3y ago
  It's like flammable and inflammable. They mean the same thing and nobody knows why we have different words for it. At least, this is my head-canon.
  - pyeri 3y ago
    Exactly! This has been my own head canon too since like decades! I was actually surprised to read in this thread that "infamous" is a negative interpretation of famous which seems like a revisionist and recent interpretation. The English language also evolves through the ages and so do the meanings and interpretations.
- ryandrake 3y ago
  Unless you were being sarcastic, it's because people don't know what the word infamous means and think it means "extremely famous".
  - adolph 3y ago
    No sarcasm, just wondering. Armstrong could have been cancelled or something. I might have missed the Two Minutes Hate [0] when he or lunar exploitation was on. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Minutes_Hate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Minutes_Hate
- renewiltord 3y ago
  Could just be a misuse of infamous but could just as well be intended to refer to the fact that Man and Mankind mean the same. You need an article in front to transform "One small step for Man" into "One small step for a man" to refer to Neil himself stepping.
  - 3y ago
georgeecollins 3y ago
I think it is a sign of habitual cynicism that you assume "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." was said by a politician. I think people feel like they are defending themselves from being manipulated by not accepting anything on its face as sincere. Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.
- lioeters 3y ago
  I think the saying goes, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And knowing Freud, you know it's not just a cigar.
  - georgeecollins 3y ago
    That's correct about Freud! I was referring to Magritte, who made the painting "Ceci n'est pas une pipe." By which he meant the image of the pipe was not actually not a pipe. Which means .. well I think you would have to read about it and I am not sure I am using the reference in the right way. I believe Freud and the cigar is about our thoughts and impulses sometimes not having greater meaning in our subconscious. Magritte is about something different.

by pyeri 3y ago

flavius29663 3y ago

Also, "we're going to the moon not because it's easy, but because it's hard"

ethbr1 3y ago
The full version of that section is more amusing but forgotten >> But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may as well ask: why climb the highest mountain? Why 35 years ago fly the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas? We choose to go to the moon {applause} We choose to go to the moon... {applause} We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard -- because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills -- because that challenge is one we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win. (And the others too) (as spoken and delivered at Rice University in Houston, Texas, referencing the Rice-Texas American football rivalry, where Texas is a 10x larger university) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QXqlziZV63k&t=9m22s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QXqlziZV63k&t=9m22s https://www.jfklibrary.org/sites/default/files/archives/JFKPOF/040/JFKPOF-040-001/JFKPOF-040-001-p0032.jpg https://www.jfklibrary.org/sites/default/files/archives/JFKP... Congratulations to ISRO (and all of India) for doing not the thing that was easy, but the thing that was hard and valuable!

dotnet00 3y ago

They want to go down in the history books the way JFK's "we choose to go to the Moon" did without experiencing the "mind-blowing" event afterwards that made the speech historical.

granularity 3y ago

Here's the actual story about that quote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Armstrong#First_Moon_walk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Armstrong#First_Moon_walk

adolph 3y ago

> The infamous quote "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." What makes the quote infamous rather than just famous?

firebat45 3y ago
It's like flammable and inflammable. They mean the same thing and nobody knows why we have different words for it. At least, this is my head-canon.
- pyeri 3y ago
  Exactly! This has been my own head canon too since like decades! I was actually surprised to read in this thread that "infamous" is a negative interpretation of famous which seems like a revisionist and recent interpretation. The English language also evolves through the ages and so do the meanings and interpretations.
ryandrake 3y ago
Unless you were being sarcastic, it's because people don't know what the word infamous means and think it means "extremely famous".
- adolph 3y ago
  No sarcasm, just wondering. Armstrong could have been cancelled or something. I might have missed the Two Minutes Hate [0] when he or lunar exploitation was on. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Minutes_Hate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Minutes_Hate
renewiltord 3y ago
Could just be a misuse of infamous but could just as well be intended to refer to the fact that Man and Mankind mean the same. You need an article in front to transform "One small step for Man" into "One small step for a man" to refer to Neil himself stepping.
- 3y ago

georgeecollins 3y ago

I think it is a sign of habitual cynicism that you assume "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." was said by a politician. I think people feel like they are defending themselves from being manipulated by not accepting anything on its face as sincere. Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.

lioeters 3y ago
I think the saying goes, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And knowing Freud, you know it's not just a cigar.
- georgeecollins 3y ago
  That's correct about Freud! I was referring to Magritte, who made the painting "Ceci n'est pas une pipe." By which he meant the image of the pipe was not actually not a pipe. Which means .. well I think you would have to read about it and I am not sure I am using the reference in the right way. I believe Freud and the cigar is about our thoughts and impulses sometimes not having greater meaning in our subconscious. Magritte is about something different.