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Oldest Known Animation, a 5200 Year-Old Iranian Ceramic Vessel
- monopoliessuck 3y agoOther finds at this location. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahr-e_Sukhteh#Finds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahr-e_Sukhteh#Finds
- DesiLurker 3y agowonder what the fps on that animation would be?
- Minor49er 3y agoProbably lower than the FPS on your average comic book panel
- DesiLurker 3y agowhy, it'd entirely depend on how many rpms the 'vessel' can do. that could be more than comic book panel.
- pluijzer 3y agoThe animations poses are actually very impressive, it is something I would more associate with a modern platform game.
- tempodox 3y agoFinally we know who invented the animated GIF, and moving pictures in general. I wonder why we haven't been sued for copyright infringement yet. The accumulated damages must be worth several fortunes.
- echelon 3y agoThat's wild! I can picture them rotating the cup around its base to entertain guests. It seems as if it was designed expressly for that purpose. The site is also the earliest known example of a prosthetic eyeball: https://iranparadise.com/shahr-e-sukhteh/ https://iranparadise.com/shahr-e-sukhteh/
- kasey_junk 3y agoBoth that article and the linked above have confusing dates in them. In one paragraph it talks about a timeline of 5 centuries ago while in others 4000 years. The linked article above talks about a timeline of 5200 years but also second and third century BCE. Is there some strange translation error going on or is the same sort of typo seeping into both?
- nottorp 3y agoWas the text AI generated perhaps?
- neonnoodle 3y agoThere's also a hypothesis that the multiple superimposed legs drawn on certain cave paintings is a proto-animation. For example the boar from Altamira whose legs are in various poses of its stride.
- gumby 3y agoI always think of that as a form of cubism, but I suppose I should say that cubism is a call-back to those early efforts.
- neonnoodle 3y agoI associate cubism with multiple viewing angles of a single thing, as opposed to multiple things viewed from a single angle. But definitely agreed that cubism was a rediscovery of a lot of earlier artistic traditions of interpretation that fell out of favor during the ascendance of "realism."
- lalos 3y agoProbably looks best in candle light and on top of the pottery wheel.
- calciphus 3y agoA similar concept - cave paintings were possibly animated by the movement of fire as a light source: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/ice-age-artists-may-have-used-firelight-to-animate-carvings-180979943/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/ice-age-artist...
- twobitshifter 3y agoI could imagine someone spinning a pottery wheel to see the animation moving. Wikipedia cites the slow wheel as being invented 4500 BC, so that seems possible.
- rightbyte 3y agoKids could run around it too, for the same effect.
- JoeAltmaier 3y agoThe rotate-on-pottery-wheel idea requires a slit to view through? But that's not hard to imagine doing back then - hold up your two hands pinkies together with a gap.
- mcpackieh 3y agoI think you also need some sort of shutter or intermittent light source to actually see the illusion of animation. You could do this by rapidly opening and closing the gap between your fingers.