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You know your country's broken when you have to design things around thieves instead of customers. Hopefully the US doesn't get this far, but it does seem we're
by MinMax50_50 3y ago
You know your country's broken when you have to design things around thieves instead of customers. Hopefully the US doesn't get this far, but it does seem we're on the road to it.
- tomcam 3y agoI guess you don’t know what’s been going on for years in San Francisco: https://www.carscoops.com/2021/12/people-in-california-are-leaving-their-trunks-open-to-dissuade-thieves/amp/ https://www.carscoops.com/2021/12/people-in-california-are-l...
- inferiorhuman 3y agoThat picture is not of/from San Francisco.
- itsyaboi 3y agoHow can you tell?
- inferiorhuman 3y agoBecause I clicked on the link and watched the embedded video? I've never once seen anyone do that in the Bay Area. Given that the "source" is a well known tabloid (Inside Edition) I'll go so far as to say the whole thing was probably staged.
- itsyaboi 3y agoYou seem confused. Perhaps you meant to reply to a different comment? The article linked in the parent comment is about San Fransisco, not the Bay Area. I was also specifically asking about the picture, not a video. Are you assuming that the picture is a still from the video? If not, I don't see how this is relevant. http://lmgtfy2.com/?q=san+francisco+unlocked+cars http://lmgtfy2.com/?q=san+francisco+unlocked+cars
- inferiorhuman 3y agoBefore shooting your mouth off you should really look at what's being talked about. Read the article, watch the video that's attached to the article. When you have something coherent to add, reply below.
- itsyaboi 3y agoAvoid acerbic, ad-hominem attacks and try to stay on topic. We would all benefit from a regular review of the site guidelines. Have a good day! :) https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- inferiorhuman 3y agoComments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html If you want a more substantive reply then don't wave about shallow dismissals e.g. "you seemed confused" when you've not actually bothered to do the one thing that would put my replies in context (and would've answered your questions in the first place). Waving the guidelines about is not a substitute for taking the 30 seconds to inform yourself. I'm not confused and I'm not questioning that you've read the article, I'm stating that you've not. In any case, no matter how much you're trying to avoid being informed, that picture was not taken in San Francisco. Full stop.
- forthwall 3y agoThe video says it’s in Oakland California
- tomcam 3y agoIt’s an article about the Bay Area, of which San Francisco is a notable part. Some would even say the biggest and most influential part. San Francisco police and citizens are quoted in it, discussing that phenomenon. Is it your assertion that this isn’t an issue there?
- inferiorhuman 3y agoMy assertion is that you've linked to a tabloid (Inside Edition) article. Tabloids tend to misrepresent things and blow them out of proportion. That's why they're tabloids and not legitimate journalistic sources. In this case I'd say your source is likely doing both. In a lifetime in the Bay Area (and a stints in Oakland and San Francisco specifically) I've never once seen people preemptively leave their trunks/tailgates open to avoid vehicular damage. If anyone's actually doing that, it's not very common. SFPD as well has demonstrated a willingness to bend the truth in order to craft their desired narrative. Is it your assertion that this isn’t an issue there? The other part of your comments that stinks to high heaven is just how focused you are on the Bay Area (nee San Francisco). Property crime is increasing nationwide for many of the same reasons that property crime is increasing in San Francisco and the Bay Area. But you had to say San Francisco when referring to not-San Francisco as if it's a dog whistle or something.
- jerkstate 3y agoI had an old shitty car in San Francisco that I left unlocked to avoid breakins, people slept in it/went to the bathroom in it. This was over 20 years ago.
- woodruffw 3y agoInconspicuous design is universal, and not a symptom of “broken countries.” Compare intentionally beaten up looking bicycles, extraordinary wealthy (especially “old” wealth) people wearing inconspicuous clothes, etc.
- mminer237 3y agoUh...I have never met someone who intentionally had a beaten-up-looking bike nor who dressed down to avoid being robbed. That sounds horrible.
- woodruffw 3y agoThere are multiple adjacent threads describing this exact phenomenon. It’s also worth taking a look at a photos of the wealthiest men in the US sometime.
- tokai 3y agoRich people don't dress down to avoid being robbed. It's been covered to death. It's a flex.
- benj111 3y agoIs it? Surely it's because some people want to display their wealth and other don't. To me wealth is money in the bank, not sitting on the driveway. Who's flexing more or the neighbour with a BMW lease?
- solardev 3y agoAre you sure? Maybe the point is that they blended in to be unnoticeable.
- mminer237 3y agoI know some rich people to be clear, and most dress modestly, but it's because they don't want to show off or they don't want to look tacky or because they still work manual labor jobs and those outfits are impractical. None have even mentioned a fear of being robbed.
- solardev 3y agoSouth Africa is a dirt-poor nation that's suffered decades of colonialism and apartheid. What's our excuse for our rampant homelessness? At least the thieves there have homes to steal solar panels for... (though, last time I was there, shantytowns were still common too). And speaking of brokenness and theft... my god, look at the West Coast cities during/after COVID. It's heartbreaking, especially while our "country" keeps getting richer on paper. Extreme inequality was terrible for South Africa. It'll be terrible for us too =/
- shiftpgdn 3y agoYou should ask South Africans of any race if they preferred the "colonialism and apartheid" or what they have now.
- solardev 3y agoCan you explain, please?
- benj111 3y ago>South Africa is a dirt-poor nation that's suffered decades of colonialism and apartheid At what point does that stop being an excuse? Early 90s it had a peaceful handover of power, democratic elections, a functioning govt. Look at how eastern Europe has developed in the same period.
- TOGoS 3y ago> At what point does that stop being an excuse? Ah, the old imperialist "Look, I gave you your wallet back (after taking what I wanted from it); what's the problem? By the way, I need cheap labor and you look like you need a job." schtick.
- benj111 3y agoIs the US still blaming Britain for its ills? Is Britain still blaming the french and Italians (Romans) for its ills? Yes fine I took your wallet. But that was 30 years ago. Will your great grand children still be blaming my grand children for the stolen wallet? Do I still get to hate the land owning elite over what they did to my forbears? Do I still get to hate the Germans because of the world wars?
- dang 3y ago"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html