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ChatGPT has a liberal bias, research on AI’s political responses shows

7 points by sizzle 3y ago

jqpabc123 3y ago
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- version_five 3y ago
  That's why we hear all those complaints about "bias" in data sets right? AI safety critics are worried models trained on data that hasn't been curated will be too liberal?
  - sitkack 3y ago
    No that is not what AI safety critics are worried about and you know it. It is racism and hate speech from huge troves of data from the sump of the internet.
    - version_five 3y ago
      My comment was meant to show the absurdity of the one it replied to, but yours is just wrong. It's not overt racism etc that is causing concern, it's "systemic bias" and such, which, if reality to was so reflective of liberalism presumably wouldn't need to be a concern. You can't have it both ways, simultaneously believing the facts are on your side while complaining that we need to adjust facts, like a sibling pointed out, to combat bias.
- mutant_glofish 3y ago
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- ThrowawayR2 3y ago
  The irony being that the people who think that that hackneyed soundbite is clever tend to hold pretty illiberal views, albeit in different areas than the conservatives. Let us hope that the quote is true and that liberalism triumphs the end.
  - sitkack 3y ago
    Reality has a liberal bias is just another way to say "regression to the mean". The majority of people think this way. Reality has a centrist (geometric mean) tendency because that is its center of mass.
    - ThrowawayR2 3y ago
      "Reality has a liberal bias" was a wisecrack by Stephen Colbert about ignoring poll results (e.g. https://www.quora.com/What-is-meant-exactly-by-the-phrase-reality-has-a-liberal-bias https://www.quora.com/What-is-meant-exactly-by-the-phrase-re...) so what you have said does not seem what is meant by the quote. IMO, it would be more accurate to say that "reality has a liberal bias" almost always means "reality agrees with my prejudices" by the sort of people who like to use it because they imagine it is witty. It is the equivalent of the sloganeering used by conservatives and just as vacuous.
bkmeneguello 3y ago
I think it's because it uses the mainstream media as "reliable" dataset. There was another AI that was trained on Reddit that was considered toxic and with "far right" opinions.

7 points by sizzle 3y ago

jqpabc123 3y ago

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version_five 3y ago
That's why we hear all those complaints about "bias" in data sets right? AI safety critics are worried models trained on data that hasn't been curated will be too liberal?
- sitkack 3y ago
  No that is not what AI safety critics are worried about and you know it. It is racism and hate speech from huge troves of data from the sump of the internet.
  - version_five 3y ago
    My comment was meant to show the absurdity of the one it replied to, but yours is just wrong. It's not overt racism etc that is causing concern, it's "systemic bias" and such, which, if reality to was so reflective of liberalism presumably wouldn't need to be a concern. You can't have it both ways, simultaneously believing the facts are on your side while complaining that we need to adjust facts, like a sibling pointed out, to combat bias.
mutant_glofish 3y ago
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ThrowawayR2 3y ago
The irony being that the people who think that that hackneyed soundbite is clever tend to hold pretty illiberal views, albeit in different areas than the conservatives. Let us hope that the quote is true and that liberalism triumphs the end.
- sitkack 3y ago
  Reality has a liberal bias is just another way to say "regression to the mean". The majority of people think this way. Reality has a centrist (geometric mean) tendency because that is its center of mass.
  - ThrowawayR2 3y ago
    "Reality has a liberal bias" was a wisecrack by Stephen Colbert about ignoring poll results (e.g. https://www.quora.com/What-is-meant-exactly-by-the-phrase-reality-has-a-liberal-bias https://www.quora.com/What-is-meant-exactly-by-the-phrase-re...) so what you have said does not seem what is meant by the quote. IMO, it would be more accurate to say that "reality has a liberal bias" almost always means "reality agrees with my prejudices" by the sort of people who like to use it because they imagine it is witty. It is the equivalent of the sloganeering used by conservatives and just as vacuous.

bkmeneguello 3y ago

I think it's because it uses the mainstream media as "reliable" dataset. There was another AI that was trained on Reddit that was considered toxic and with "far right" opinions.