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CloudFlare is only increasing from $9.15 to $9.77

by tomschlick 3y ago

politelemon 3y ago
How are Cloudflare and Porkbun keeping the cost still 'low', isn't everyone affected by Verisign's increases?
- patmcc 3y ago
  Cloudflare wants you on their platform so they can sell you everything else - it's a loss leader. Porkbun I don't know. Namecheap, I think domains are their primary business - they need to make money on them.
  - Someone1234 3y ago
    Can I say something stupid but maybe true: Do you want to be on a domain registrar for whom registration is a loss-leader or their core business? Like, I like cheaper too, but even just in the last few years I can think of a few "loss-leader" registrars who decided they no longer wanted that division operating at a loss and scrapped it. Google Domains being the most popular example[0], but Gandi[1] is another where they operated at a loss then got acquired with huge price increases. Disclosure: I'm on NameCheap and AWS's Route53. I've seen way too many NameCheap alternatives come & go or turn "evil." If NameCheap starts being sketchy or misleading, I'll move, but that hasn't happened yet. I want a rock solid registrar for tens of years, with a business strategy that supports that, rather than saving $4/year. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Domains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Domains [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandi#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandi#History
    - patmcc 3y ago
      Yep, I'm still on NameCheap, for all the same reasons. They're not the cheapest any longer, but I've also never had an issues with them. And I like knowing that they're making a profit on me - keeps them likely to continue doing what they're doing.
    - Spivak 3y ago
      Given you're on Route53 I'm surprised you would even bother with anyone else. Route53 is hands down the best registrar no questions asked. They have no side hustle to auction off domains that fall off renewal and all their customers would be pisssed if that ever happened. They're a company where the incentives actually align.
  - stOneskull 3y ago
    before i moved to porkbun, i had 12 domains. now i have 23. their great domain search, their friendly, funny words everywhere, and cute graphics.. it gets people to buy more domains than they normally would, and not want to move away. that's my guess. edit: here is their announcement.. august 8 - https://mailchi.mp/porkbun.com/porkbun-unwrapped-whats-in-store-for-2672342 https://mailchi.mp/porkbun.com/porkbun-unwrapped-whats-in-st... "We expect our pricing to change from $9.73 to around $10.37 on September 1"
- hinkley 3y ago
  I would think DNS registration is a value-add/loss leader for Cloudflare, not something they anticipate large numbers of users taking advantage of without signing up for other Cloudflare services, no?
- marcosdumay 3y ago
  I expect Cludfare to operate at a loss. Porkbun is harder to explain, maybe they will announce price increases soon.
  - timbit42 3y ago
    At least two other comments on this post says their prices are also going up soon.

CloudFlare is only increasing from $9.15 to $9.77

politelemon 3y ago

How are Cloudflare and Porkbun keeping the cost still 'low', isn't everyone affected by Verisign's increases?

patmcc 3y ago
Cloudflare wants you on their platform so they can sell you everything else - it's a loss leader. Porkbun I don't know. Namecheap, I think domains are their primary business - they need to make money on them.
- Someone1234 3y ago
  Can I say something stupid but maybe true: Do you want to be on a domain registrar for whom registration is a loss-leader or their core business? Like, I like cheaper too, but even just in the last few years I can think of a few "loss-leader" registrars who decided they no longer wanted that division operating at a loss and scrapped it. Google Domains being the most popular example[0], but Gandi[1] is another where they operated at a loss then got acquired with huge price increases. Disclosure: I'm on NameCheap and AWS's Route53. I've seen way too many NameCheap alternatives come & go or turn "evil." If NameCheap starts being sketchy or misleading, I'll move, but that hasn't happened yet. I want a rock solid registrar for tens of years, with a business strategy that supports that, rather than saving $4/year. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Domains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Domains [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandi#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandi#History
  - patmcc 3y ago
    Yep, I'm still on NameCheap, for all the same reasons. They're not the cheapest any longer, but I've also never had an issues with them. And I like knowing that they're making a profit on me - keeps them likely to continue doing what they're doing.
  - Spivak 3y ago
    Given you're on Route53 I'm surprised you would even bother with anyone else. Route53 is hands down the best registrar no questions asked. They have no side hustle to auction off domains that fall off renewal and all their customers would be pisssed if that ever happened. They're a company where the incentives actually align.
- stOneskull 3y ago
  before i moved to porkbun, i had 12 domains. now i have 23. their great domain search, their friendly, funny words everywhere, and cute graphics.. it gets people to buy more domains than they normally would, and not want to move away. that's my guess. edit: here is their announcement.. august 8 - https://mailchi.mp/porkbun.com/porkbun-unwrapped-whats-in-store-for-2672342 https://mailchi.mp/porkbun.com/porkbun-unwrapped-whats-in-st... "We expect our pricing to change from $9.73 to around $10.37 on September 1"
hinkley 3y ago
I would think DNS registration is a value-add/loss leader for Cloudflare, not something they anticipate large numbers of users taking advantage of without signing up for other Cloudflare services, no?
marcosdumay 3y ago
I expect Cludfare to operate at a loss. Porkbun is harder to explain, maybe they will announce price increases soon.
- timbit42 3y ago
  At least two other comments on this post says their prices are also going up soon.