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If they have paid to register for your conference, it’s your duty to write those letters. I doubt people having speaking slots at the conference will just skip

If they have paid to register for your conference, it’s your duty to write those letters. I doubt people having speaking slots at the conference will just skip out to go vacation. It’s not like they can’t vacation after the talk. More likely that they just didn’t get the visa because European visa processes, while better than US ones, are just slow.

pc86 3y ago
It's not his duty to do anything, and he's explicitly saying people have accepted speaking slots then not shown up so your doubts are unfounded. Have you never attended a conference where there is a last-minute change in a speaker or talk? Theirs is not the first time I've heard of that happening, either.
- throwaway290 3y ago
  Have you never attended a conference where a speaker was not from a developing country but didn't bother to show up anyway? I had I say charge more, take higher deposits if needed but be more hands on with all speakers (not discriminating against "global south"): get their precise arrival info, always be in touch about their status, meet at the airport, organize their accommodation, etc. So they have no chance to escape your hospitality
  - pc86 3y ago
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      - pc86 3y ago
        I suggest you take a step back and think about how your comments come across so as not to unintentionally come off more harsh than you want. In fact what I was replying to was someone saying it was an event organizer's "duty" to write invitation letters for conference attendees for Visa purposes, which it is objectively not. The country is irrelevant, the economic development of the country is irrelevant.
        throwaway290 3y ago
        You literally just told me off saying it has nothing to do with anything though it was part of the context, and you tell me I'm harsh. The nature of context is it does not stop existing just because you don't mention it. I very much agree it's exactly organizer's duty to write visa invitations, and without prejudice and discrimination, and if they want they can do other things to combat abuse as I suggest. Whereas your idea that "it's not his(sic) job to do anything" is very dubious on many levels and no offense I hope I don't have a misfortune to attend a conf you organize :)
        Ar-Curunir 3y ago
        Err international attendees cannot get visas without such invitation letters, so if you want international attendees then you should write such letters. You can't both want international attendance and then not do the legwork to support that.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    A large tech conference may have 100+ speakers. They're not all getting the white glove treatment. Life does happen in any case--especially in these days when people are acutely aware that they can't show up at conferences with an illness. I've also filled in for a speaker who just totally forgot they had a session at the conference and were double-booked elsewhere. It happens. Might seem odd but it can happen when you might have a a dozen speaking slots a year and many more proposals in flight.
i_no_can_eat 3y ago
> If they have paid to register for your conference, it’s your duty to write those letters. I should probably have made it clear that I'm talking about conferences without registration fees.

pc86 3y ago

It's not his duty to do anything, and he's explicitly saying people have accepted speaking slots then not shown up so your doubts are unfounded. Have you never attended a conference where there is a last-minute change in a speaker or talk? Theirs is not the first time I've heard of that happening, either.

throwaway290 3y ago
Have you never attended a conference where a speaker was not from a developing country but didn't bother to show up anyway? I had I say charge more, take higher deposits if needed but be more hands on with all speakers (not discriminating against "global south"): get their precise arrival info, always be in touch about their status, meet at the airport, organize their accommodation, etc. So they have no chance to escape your hospitality
- pc86 3y ago
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  - throwaway290 3y ago
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    - pc86 3y ago
      I suggest you take a step back and think about how your comments come across so as not to unintentionally come off more harsh than you want. In fact what I was replying to was someone saying it was an event organizer's "duty" to write invitation letters for conference attendees for Visa purposes, which it is objectively not. The country is irrelevant, the economic development of the country is irrelevant.
      - throwaway290 3y ago
        You literally just told me off saying it has nothing to do with anything though it was part of the context, and you tell me I'm harsh. The nature of context is it does not stop existing just because you don't mention it. I very much agree it's exactly organizer's duty to write visa invitations, and without prejudice and discrimination, and if they want they can do other things to combat abuse as I suggest. Whereas your idea that "it's not his(sic) job to do anything" is very dubious on many levels and no offense I hope I don't have a misfortune to attend a conf you organize :)
      - Ar-Curunir 3y ago
        Err international attendees cannot get visas without such invitation letters, so if you want international attendees then you should write such letters. You can't both want international attendance and then not do the legwork to support that.
- ghaff 3y ago
  A large tech conference may have 100+ speakers. They're not all getting the white glove treatment. Life does happen in any case--especially in these days when people are acutely aware that they can't show up at conferences with an illness. I've also filled in for a speaker who just totally forgot they had a session at the conference and were double-booked elsewhere. It happens. Might seem odd but it can happen when you might have a a dozen speaking slots a year and many more proposals in flight.

i_no_can_eat 3y ago

> If they have paid to register for your conference, it’s your duty to write those letters. I should probably have made it clear that I'm talking about conferences without registration fees.