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Just get a US graduate degree from a great school that is online like Stanford ($70k), UIUC ($25k), UT ($10k) or GT ($6k) and they'll be all over you regardless

Just get a US graduate degree from a great school that is online like Stanford ($70k), UIUC ($25k), UT ($10k) or GT ($6k) and they'll be all over you regardless of where you are. Alternatively, use TopTal, A-team, Tribe.ai etc. for US gigs.

enoughjobspam 3y ago
Our industry does not really care about degrees. The places that do are crappy and you don't want to work there. I've worked without a degree for 20 years. Recently got one for personal achievement purposes. Totally not worth it from an career investment perspective, IMHO.
- prirun 3y ago
  Just to give a different perspective on degrees, I did get a BS (Applied Math and Computer Science at an engineering school) and in my late 20's secured a large contract with IBM at Ford. Ford wanted me to do the work (they knew me from a previous contract), but IBM wanted a large contracting company to do the work. I'm pretty sure if I hadn't had a degree, I would have never gotten that contract. I can't say I learned much of anything useful in college, but I didn't want to be that guy that constantly was passed over for promotions and opportunities because I didn't have a degree and a less-qualified person did.
- treprinum 3y ago
  I assume you are in the US. The original poster was outside US fighting thousands other CVs applying for remote US jobs. One way to distinguish oneself is to have some US symbol on the CV, like a top school, or a top employer.
otikik 3y ago
If you have the connections, knowing someone inside the company (e.g. from an open source project) and asking them to move your CV inside the company for you will be a faster and cheaper way to get in.
golergka 3y ago
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nmfisher 3y ago
When I looked at it, Toptal required a four week unpaid project as part of their "vetting" procedures. I'm still not sure who is actually willing to put themselves through that.
- treprinum 3y ago
  Not sure, I think it's 1 week but doable in 1 day? Anyway, taking those "remote agency" projects can help the poster to get some money while they are searching for a proper US-based arrangement. And they can land jobs that pay $200/h on TopTal as well (uncommon though).

enoughjobspam 3y ago

Our industry does not really care about degrees. The places that do are crappy and you don't want to work there. I've worked without a degree for 20 years. Recently got one for personal achievement purposes. Totally not worth it from an career investment perspective, IMHO.

prirun 3y ago
Just to give a different perspective on degrees, I did get a BS (Applied Math and Computer Science at an engineering school) and in my late 20's secured a large contract with IBM at Ford. Ford wanted me to do the work (they knew me from a previous contract), but IBM wanted a large contracting company to do the work. I'm pretty sure if I hadn't had a degree, I would have never gotten that contract. I can't say I learned much of anything useful in college, but I didn't want to be that guy that constantly was passed over for promotions and opportunities because I didn't have a degree and a less-qualified person did.
treprinum 3y ago
I assume you are in the US. The original poster was outside US fighting thousands other CVs applying for remote US jobs. One way to distinguish oneself is to have some US symbol on the CV, like a top school, or a top employer.

otikik 3y ago

If you have the connections, knowing someone inside the company (e.g. from an open source project) and asking them to move your CV inside the company for you will be a faster and cheaper way to get in.

golergka 3y ago

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nmfisher 3y ago

When I looked at it, Toptal required a four week unpaid project as part of their "vetting" procedures. I'm still not sure who is actually willing to put themselves through that.

treprinum 3y ago
Not sure, I think it's 1 week but doable in 1 day? Anyway, taking those "remote agency" projects can help the poster to get some money while they are searching for a proper US-based arrangement. And they can land jobs that pay $200/h on TopTal as well (uncommon though).