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An order of magnitude more would be comparable to electricity consumption by households. Its utility feels to me at least an order of magnitude higher than the
by felixmeziere 3y ago
An order of magnitude more would be comparable to electricity consumption by households. Its utility feels to me at least an order of magnitude higher than the one of data centers, as sheltering, cleanliness and everyday appliances are much lower in the Maslow pyramid!
- solveit 3y agoThese days, sheltering, cleanliness and everyday appliances kinda depend on data centres.
- felixmeziere 3y agoBut they didn’t 30 years ago and we were all doing well. Data centers are not required for them.
- vineyardmike 3y ago30ys ago my mother spent an hour a day vacuuming the house. Now she has an internet connected robot, and spends an hour once a week. She’s doing better than she was 30y ago, even if she didn’t think she was doing bad 30y ago.
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- vel0city 3y agoTBF that robo vacuum didn't need a datacenter to function. I had a Neato Botvac from pre-connected models that worked fine until the laser turret failed and I haven't been able to get around to repairing it yet. Roombas were around for like a decade before they started getting connected.
- euazOn 3y agoFun fact: the Maslow pyramid is surrounded by a bunch of myths, such as the fact that it most likely wasn’t even created by Maslow. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/who-created-maslows-iconic-pyramid/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/who-cre...
- wyre 3y agoMaslow came up with the idea for a pyramid. The visualization for the pyramid was created by someone working in advertising, iirc.
- euazOn 3y agoMaslow came up with the general idea, which was different than the pyramid we know today. He never came up with the idea for a pyramid.
- llbeansandrice 3y agoFunnily enough I’ve really only heard it referred to as “Maslow’s hierarchy” and not a pyramid specifically until this thread. Which appears to be proper accreditation.
- codetrotter 3y agoIn Norway I have often heard it referred to as “Maslows behovspyramide”, which translates to “Maslow's Pyramid of Needs.” Indeed, even one of the greatest encyclopaedias in Norway mentions “Maslows behovspyramide” in their article about Maslow. https://snl.no/Abraham_Maslow https://snl.no/Abraham_Maslow (article is in Norwegian.)
- ctoth 3y agoSure, housing takes ~20%. But while you are sitting in your nicely electrified house, watching Netflix, You're still using that datacenter's power. All the people in all their nice electrified houses are looking for electrified entertainment served from datacenters, along with all the remarkable shit computers get used for. So it's not that housing isn't more important, it's that computing does so much with so little already.
- jeffbee 3y agoSomething like 99.44% of all the energy used in the Netflix system is used by your TV.
- paulddraper 3y agoWow, sorry guys my bad. I'll turn my TV off. Good day!
- pard68 3y agoHonestly, turning your TV is for your own best.
- irrational 3y agoYou seem to be missing some words. I’m guessing you meant to say “turning your TV off is for your own best interest”?
- commonlisp94 3y ago
- Redemo 3y agoLots of internet use reduces CO2. Like doing your accounting with your bank. Or learning how much is that? And fixing DC power use is easy I comparisons. Alone google s 24/7 renewable plan puts a lot of pressure on the industry
- 8note 3y agoIs it though? Lots of what data centers do is around organizing people so that they have jobs that get them housing and food and so on At least for the rich westerners, that data center is quite essential for the household electricity consumption