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Vidcutter's startup time isn't PyQT, that initializes nearly instantly. Considering how both defer to ffmpeg a lot of these stats dont mean anything

refulgentis 3y ago
They are a direct response to the GP post's offhand quip about Electron. GP found the difference relevant, and I believe you're GP, but I am confused now given the change in interest.
- pdntspa 3y ago
  My point is that startup time may not have anything to do with the GUI. It is not a good metric. I could write both an electron and pyQT app that takes minutes to start if it has other shit it needs to be doing. I haven't used electron in years but pyQT apps start up instantly, therefore this app must be doing something else. If the two apps were programmed identically then you might have a comparison.
  - speedgoose 3y ago
    Most people don't care whether an app uses Python with Qt or Javascript with Chromium. They care about more about useability and features.
    - pdntspa 3y ago
      The "most people" argument is moot. I have outlined by arguments elsewhere in this thread
      - speedgoose 3y ago
        Well, people don’t build apps for the very few users that don’t like JavaScript web crap but are fine with Python Qt crap.
  - refulgentis 3y ago
    > pyQT apps start up instantly ????
    - pdntspa 3y ago
      Have you written code with it? I am working on a pyQT project right now that is interactive pretty much as soon as python starts up
guraf 3y ago
You said electron sucked. That might be, but vidcutter, the subject of this thread, isn't proving your point. Just goes to show that who writes the code has more impact than the tech stack when it comes to such tools. I don't know if all the numbers are accurate but it's true that vidcutter does weird things. I think it extracts ffmpeg to the temp directory on every start for whatever reason (it's not like it's a portable executable, it requires installation so why not extract it then?). I can't explain why it uses more memory or how they managed to make it look alien despite using QT (so much for accusing electron of not looking native).

refulgentis 3y ago

They are a direct response to the GP post's offhand quip about Electron. GP found the difference relevant, and I believe you're GP, but I am confused now given the change in interest.

pdntspa 3y ago
My point is that startup time may not have anything to do with the GUI. It is not a good metric. I could write both an electron and pyQT app that takes minutes to start if it has other shit it needs to be doing. I haven't used electron in years but pyQT apps start up instantly, therefore this app must be doing something else. If the two apps were programmed identically then you might have a comparison.
- speedgoose 3y ago
  Most people don't care whether an app uses Python with Qt or Javascript with Chromium. They care about more about useability and features.
  - pdntspa 3y ago
    The "most people" argument is moot. I have outlined by arguments elsewhere in this thread
    - speedgoose 3y ago
      Well, people don’t build apps for the very few users that don’t like JavaScript web crap but are fine with Python Qt crap.
- refulgentis 3y ago
  > pyQT apps start up instantly ????
  - pdntspa 3y ago
    Have you written code with it? I am working on a pyQT project right now that is interactive pretty much as soon as python starts up

guraf 3y ago

You said electron sucked. That might be, but vidcutter, the subject of this thread, isn't proving your point. Just goes to show that who writes the code has more impact than the tech stack when it comes to such tools. I don't know if all the numbers are accurate but it's true that vidcutter does weird things. I think it extracts ffmpeg to the temp directory on every start for whatever reason (it's not like it's a portable executable, it requires installation so why not extract it then?). I can't explain why it uses more memory or how they managed to make it look alien despite using QT (so much for accusing electron of not looking native).