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How would you even prove that

andsoitis 3y ago
Artists typically attribute their work. Artists are generally unlikely to pretend work generated by AI is their own, because their reputation will be damaged.
- simonh 3y ago
  A lot of the people using AI art generators are not themselves artists, but how do you prove they aren't?.
  - andsoitis 3y ago
    It is up to them to prove originality/provenance if they want to enforce copyright.
    - brookst 3y ago
      Burden of proof goes the other way. If someone copyrights AI art, you copy it, and they sue you… it’s going to be on you to prove it was not original.
      - andsoitis 3y ago
        > If someone copyrights AI art They would be risking contravening the law. Probably not worth it.
        GaggiX 3y ago
        That would make sense if there is an actual way to enforce the law, the entire conversation is about how to prove that a bad actor is violating copyright law by copyrighting AI art.
        anigbrowl 3y ago
        Your posts here are very naive. Scamming is widespread, and there are no legal penalties (other than the loss of the filing fee) for false claims of authorship. The only risk to an AI-powered scammer is if they go to the expense of suing someone else for copyright infringement, which they probably won't since scammers like easy money. And there is a lot of easy money to be made, so this is going to keep happening. Last week there was a book about the Maui fires in the top 100 on Amazon, which looks to have been written entirely by ChatGPT: https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2023/08/17/amazon-bestselling-book-published-2-days-into-maui-wildfires-raises-red-flags-from-publishers-reviewers/?sh=29649e255893 https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2023/08/17/amazon-...
        brookst 3y ago
        I don’t think it’s criminal to copyright something that’s not eligible. The copyright office should turn it down, and it would lose if challenged, but I don’t think it’s illegal to file the claim. I’d welcome info to the contrary.
      - freejazz 3y ago
        To sue, you first have to register your work with the copyright office.

Artists typically attribute their work. Artists are generally unlikely to pretend work generated by AI is their own, because their reputation will be damaged.

simonh 3y ago
A lot of the people using AI art generators are not themselves artists, but how do you prove they aren't?.
- andsoitis 3y ago
  It is up to them to prove originality/provenance if they want to enforce copyright.
  - brookst 3y ago
    Burden of proof goes the other way. If someone copyrights AI art, you copy it, and they sue you… it’s going to be on you to prove it was not original.
    - andsoitis 3y ago
      > If someone copyrights AI art They would be risking contravening the law. Probably not worth it.
      - GaggiX 3y ago
        That would make sense if there is an actual way to enforce the law, the entire conversation is about how to prove that a bad actor is violating copyright law by copyrighting AI art.
      - anigbrowl 3y ago
        Your posts here are very naive. Scamming is widespread, and there are no legal penalties (other than the loss of the filing fee) for false claims of authorship. The only risk to an AI-powered scammer is if they go to the expense of suing someone else for copyright infringement, which they probably won't since scammers like easy money. And there is a lot of easy money to be made, so this is going to keep happening. Last week there was a book about the Maui fires in the top 100 on Amazon, which looks to have been written entirely by ChatGPT: https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2023/08/17/amazon-bestselling-book-published-2-days-into-maui-wildfires-raises-red-flags-from-publishers-reviewers/?sh=29649e255893 https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2023/08/17/amazon-...
      - brookst 3y ago
        I don’t think it’s criminal to copyright something that’s not eligible. The copyright office should turn it down, and it would lose if challenged, but I don’t think it’s illegal to file the claim. I’d welcome info to the contrary.
    - freejazz 3y ago
      To sue, you first have to register your work with the copyright office.