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> These posts are always hijacked into an Apple discussion Or occasionally by RISC-V "enthusiasts" who claim that none of it matters since ARM is dead and ever

> These posts are always hijacked into an Apple discussion Or occasionally by RISC-V "enthusiasts" who claim that none of it matters since ARM is dead and everybody is going to switch to RISC-V in the very near (but undetermined) future..

imtringued 3y ago
ARM is dead not because I am a RISCV enthusiast, but because ARM is a terrible company that is taking forever to enter the server market. Neoverse N2 chips should have been available years ago. Once Jim Keller releases his Ascalon server RISC-V CPUs that are competitive with Zen x86 server CPUs, there is basically no room for ARM servers left since ARM couldn't manage to get their feet into the server market soon enough. So many ARM server vendors canceled their CPU projects, to the point that the safest prediction you can make about any new ARM server CPU is that it will be canceled. The thing about ARM is that it is already dead in the server market.
- lewisinc 3y ago
  Regardless of the merit of your points, why would you willingly walk into the caricature that was so obviously painted?
- pjmlp 3y ago
  Amazon thinks otherwise.
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- devnullbrain 3y ago
  ARM servers have a better history of mass production than server CPU startups have of making it to 5 years without being acquired. But then that's probably the goal.
snvzz 3y ago
>ARM is dead Not dead (yet). Just a legacy ISA. >everybody is going to switch to RISC-V RISC-V is inevitable.
- 221qqwe 3y ago
  > RISC-V is inevitable. Exactly, I find this sort of fanaticism about an instruction set (of all things) so puzzling. Many of the comments which mention RISC-V have anything constructive to say or any meaningful arguments. All the fanboyism makes me feel a bit like I'm on reddit (or worse)...
  - snvzz 3y ago
    There's a bunch of such select phrases the use of which is suggested by the top of the organization[0]. I recognize the value of some level of coordination in marketing efforts, and as I'm no expert I just follow their recommendations, like "RISC-V is inevitable". 0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9DEM216748 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9DEM216748
    - wwtrv 3y ago
      I never realized that it's actually RISC-five and not RISC-/v/.

imtringued 3y ago

ARM is dead not because I am a RISCV enthusiast, but because ARM is a terrible company that is taking forever to enter the server market. Neoverse N2 chips should have been available years ago. Once Jim Keller releases his Ascalon server RISC-V CPUs that are competitive with Zen x86 server CPUs, there is basically no room for ARM servers left since ARM couldn't manage to get their feet into the server market soon enough. So many ARM server vendors canceled their CPU projects, to the point that the safest prediction you can make about any new ARM server CPU is that it will be canceled. The thing about ARM is that it is already dead in the server market.

lewisinc 3y ago
Regardless of the merit of your points, why would you willingly walk into the caricature that was so obviously painted?
pjmlp 3y ago
Amazon thinks otherwise.
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devnullbrain 3y ago
ARM servers have a better history of mass production than server CPU startups have of making it to 5 years without being acquired. But then that's probably the goal.

snvzz 3y ago

>ARM is dead Not dead (yet). Just a legacy ISA. >everybody is going to switch to RISC-V RISC-V is inevitable.

221qqwe 3y ago
> RISC-V is inevitable. Exactly, I find this sort of fanaticism about an instruction set (of all things) so puzzling. Many of the comments which mention RISC-V have anything constructive to say or any meaningful arguments. All the fanboyism makes me feel a bit like I'm on reddit (or worse)...
- snvzz 3y ago
  There's a bunch of such select phrases the use of which is suggested by the top of the organization[0]. I recognize the value of some level of coordination in marketing efforts, and as I'm no expert I just follow their recommendations, like "RISC-V is inevitable". 0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9DEM216748 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9DEM216748
  - wwtrv 3y ago
    I never realized that it's actually RISC-five and not RISC-/v/.