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"I'm assuming you're not a member of a group of people that gets called slurs in meatspace with that opinion." Your assumption is really wrong but I do not wis

"I'm assuming you're not a member of a group of people that gets called slurs in meatspace with that opinion." Your assumption is really wrong but I do not wish to talk about it further. Who I am shouldn't matter. What I do should matter instead.

MBCook 3y ago
I think their point is that your position appears to be much more common from those who are in the majority (e.g. straight/white/cis/male) than those in one or more minority groups. Assumedly that’s because people in the majority don’t get harassed to the same degree, or aren’t phased to the same degree as minority members. This is a pattern that seems to repeat a lot in tech. Majority people design a system with serious safety/harassment issues because no one who has experienced it was consulted, then are surprised when standard harassment techniques are repeated and the designers are taken by surprise that well known abuse patterns exist.
- spoiler 3y ago
  I'm queer/gay and I can't tell you the amount of times people tried to use gay/fag as an insult online. It might've affected me negatively when I was younger or a teen, but now that I'm grown up, it just seems so... Stupid? Thinking back, I feel stupid for ever letting such unsophisticated attempts of a primitive world view ever even remotely affect me. These day, at worst if they're irritating I just mute them. At best, it's an invitation for free trolling (making jokes about their dad on Grindr, telling them their dirty talk is giving me a distracting boner or "flirting" with them, saying they sound like a used-up twice-divorced wife, etc; it's easy to push these people's buttons). Them throwing my game is much more annoying than them projecting their insecurities in voice chat, and sometimes it's hard to counter a disruptive player (sometimes you can work around them, but the game is much more challenging for the wrong reason).
  - funflame 3y ago
    > It might've affected me negatively when I was younger or a teen Isn't this the point, though? Considering how online gaming is generally focused more on younger demographics, being harsh on hateful speech is likely to improve the experience of those who are vulnerable to it. Detecting hate speech is much easier compared to intentional feeding or throwing.

MBCook 3y ago

I think their point is that your position appears to be much more common from those who are in the majority (e.g. straight/white/cis/male) than those in one or more minority groups. Assumedly that’s because people in the majority don’t get harassed to the same degree, or aren’t phased to the same degree as minority members. This is a pattern that seems to repeat a lot in tech. Majority people design a system with serious safety/harassment issues because no one who has experienced it was consulted, then are surprised when standard harassment techniques are repeated and the designers are taken by surprise that well known abuse patterns exist.

spoiler 3y ago
I'm queer/gay and I can't tell you the amount of times people tried to use gay/fag as an insult online. It might've affected me negatively when I was younger or a teen, but now that I'm grown up, it just seems so... Stupid? Thinking back, I feel stupid for ever letting such unsophisticated attempts of a primitive world view ever even remotely affect me. These day, at worst if they're irritating I just mute them. At best, it's an invitation for free trolling (making jokes about their dad on Grindr, telling them their dirty talk is giving me a distracting boner or "flirting" with them, saying they sound like a used-up twice-divorced wife, etc; it's easy to push these people's buttons). Them throwing my game is much more annoying than them projecting their insecurities in voice chat, and sometimes it's hard to counter a disruptive player (sometimes you can work around them, but the game is much more challenging for the wrong reason).
- funflame 3y ago
  > It might've affected me negatively when I was younger or a teen Isn't this the point, though? Considering how online gaming is generally focused more on younger demographics, being harsh on hateful speech is likely to improve the experience of those who are vulnerable to it. Detecting hate speech is much easier compared to intentional feeding or throwing.