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> There are a ton of theories that are very difficult to validate because you simply can't run the experiment due to practical or ethical reasons. But they HAV

> There are a ton of theories that are very difficult to validate because you simply can't run the experiment due to practical or ethical reasons. But they HAVE run high/low context experiments. > For example my theory that UBI is unworkable. Basically impossible to prove because it's just too expensive to ever run a real UBI experiment. Are you referring to Universal Basic Income? If so, countless experiments have been run. [0] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots#:~:text=Universal%20basic%20income%20pilots%20are,of%20negative%20income%20tax%2C%20including https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots#...

IshKebab 3y ago
> Are you referring to Universal Basic Income? If so, countless experiments have been run Sure, but those experiments are fundamentally flawed because they are of such limited duration, and because they only apply to a small portion of society. Obviously people's behaviour is going to be different if they know they can't abandon their careers, and the economy is obviously not going to be affected at all by these trials but it definitely would by actual UBI! To do a proper test you'd need an entire country to try UBI for at least one lifetime. Good luck with that.
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  Indeed, the incomes in such experiments are not universal.
  - caminante 3y ago
    Why ignore the facts? The link had explicit examples of universal experiments that met the parent's goalpost criteria (i.e. "entire country"). See the nationwide program in Iran[0]. If you're not satisfied, then you need to provide your criteria and references to support your argument. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots#Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots#...
- caminante 3y ago
  > To do a proper test you'd need an entire country to try UBI for at least one lifetime. Good luck with that. My link provided examples that did that! See the Iran study [0]! I deleted the rest of my comment elaborating on your fallacies because it's clear that you're acting in bad faith, and there's no point. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots#Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots#...

IshKebab 3y ago

> Are you referring to Universal Basic Income? If so, countless experiments have been run Sure, but those experiments are fundamentally flawed because they are of such limited duration, and because they only apply to a small portion of society. Obviously people's behaviour is going to be different if they know they can't abandon their careers, and the economy is obviously not going to be affected at all by these trials but it definitely would by actual UBI! To do a proper test you'd need an entire country to try UBI for at least one lifetime. Good luck with that.

satvikpendem 3y ago
Indeed, the incomes in such experiments are not universal.
- caminante 3y ago
  Why ignore the facts? The link had explicit examples of universal experiments that met the parent's goalpost criteria (i.e. "entire country"). See the nationwide program in Iran[0]. If you're not satisfied, then you need to provide your criteria and references to support your argument. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots#Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots#...
caminante 3y ago
> To do a proper test you'd need an entire country to try UBI for at least one lifetime. Good luck with that. My link provided examples that did that! See the Iran study [0]! I deleted the rest of my comment elaborating on your fallacies because it's clear that you're acting in bad faith, and there's no point. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots#Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilots#...