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If anything they'd do the opposite so that the public doesn't get "the wrong idea" something dangerous is up. Just look at how Homeland Security made it illegal

If anything they'd do the opposite so that the public doesn't get "the wrong idea" something dangerous is up. Just look at how Homeland Security made it illegal to measure how much radiation the post-9/11 security screening devices put out, forbade medical physicists from testing them, forbade employees working near the scanners from obtaining and wearing their own protection, and fired workers who wore their own dosimetry tags.

pbhjpbhj 3y ago
>Homeland Security made it illegal // How do they stop sales of scanning equipment to people who want to do testing? You could easily buy them abroad, and do tests abroad. Also, could you cite the US Code on this please. Thanks.
- fullspectrumdev 3y ago
  You could also just leave a dosimeter in your pocket when going through the airport next. There’s a few on the market that log over Bluetooth. Not taken one through the body scanner, I’ve not actually had to go through a body scanner in quite a while at the airport. Just usual metal detector.
  - fluidcruft 3y ago
    I was referring to the security officers who stand next to the machines everyday. They were forbidden from measuring anything related to occupational exposure. At one point the TSA found itself caught in so many lies about their supposed "testing" that they ran a very public PR-style limited study. Coincidentally, nowadays the backscatter scanners have been quietly replaced with millimeter wave scanners. Anyway the point of my comment wasn't to re-litigate this. It's more that the original comment struck me as "can't the fox just guard the henhouse?"
    - landemva 3y ago
      An officer traditionally has been a person in military with a commission (or NCO), or police. TSA are government employees, with self-created pretend titles and fake badges. TSA can't detain or arrest and if scan tunnel shows possible weapon the TSA aren't allowed to touch it and the line cop does that.
- fluidcruft 3y ago
  Why is it our job to establish the safety of devices? The TSA lied through its teeth about these devices and is accountable only to themselves. https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/scientists-cant-check-tsas-scanner-safety-claims/ https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/scientists-cant-ch... https://www.financialsense.com/contributors/gonzalo-lira/a-full-body-scan-of-american-corruption https://www.financialsense.com/contributors/gonzalo-lira/a-f...
  - landemva 3y ago
    Anyone who consents to the full body scans does it voluntarily. Just say no.
    - fluidcruft 3y ago
      I'm talking about occupational exposures. Nobody cares about bananna-level events.

pbhjpbhj 3y ago

>Homeland Security made it illegal // How do they stop sales of scanning equipment to people who want to do testing? You could easily buy them abroad, and do tests abroad. Also, could you cite the US Code on this please. Thanks.

fullspectrumdev 3y ago
You could also just leave a dosimeter in your pocket when going through the airport next. There’s a few on the market that log over Bluetooth. Not taken one through the body scanner, I’ve not actually had to go through a body scanner in quite a while at the airport. Just usual metal detector.
- fluidcruft 3y ago
  I was referring to the security officers who stand next to the machines everyday. They were forbidden from measuring anything related to occupational exposure. At one point the TSA found itself caught in so many lies about their supposed "testing" that they ran a very public PR-style limited study. Coincidentally, nowadays the backscatter scanners have been quietly replaced with millimeter wave scanners. Anyway the point of my comment wasn't to re-litigate this. It's more that the original comment struck me as "can't the fox just guard the henhouse?"
  - landemva 3y ago
    An officer traditionally has been a person in military with a commission (or NCO), or police. TSA are government employees, with self-created pretend titles and fake badges. TSA can't detain or arrest and if scan tunnel shows possible weapon the TSA aren't allowed to touch it and the line cop does that.
fluidcruft 3y ago
Why is it our job to establish the safety of devices? The TSA lied through its teeth about these devices and is accountable only to themselves. https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/scientists-cant-check-tsas-scanner-safety-claims/ https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/scientists-cant-ch... https://www.financialsense.com/contributors/gonzalo-lira/a-full-body-scan-of-american-corruption https://www.financialsense.com/contributors/gonzalo-lira/a-f...
- landemva 3y ago
  Anyone who consents to the full body scans does it voluntarily. Just say no.
  - fluidcruft 3y ago
    I'm talking about occupational exposures. Nobody cares about bananna-level events.