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Microsoft will let you uninstall more built-in Win 11 apps soon for less bloat
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- mindracer 3y agoCortana is going EoL in the next few months so being able to uninstall it is not surprising
- 9g3890fj2 3y agoAnd even so, what are the odds that other apps will just end up back on the OS after some period of time? It's part of the Windows experience, uninstalling the garbage only to see it come back in an update a couple months later.
- mepian 3y agoI'd really like to uninstall Edge and never be pestered about switching to it as the default browser ever again.
- samstave 3y agoW11 is absolute garbage. I hate it - I have two identical gaming laptops, one Windows 10& one is 11. The 11 crashes a lot, overheats and then on top of it ms has integrated ads I to the OS... And tying your login to outlook.com should be illegal :-) The w10 machine never over heats, doesn't crash and doesn't have as much as embedded - but it still ties to outlook.com no bueno
- CoastalCoder 3y agoWhy do you keep Windows 11 on that laptop? I'd think that cloning your Windows 10 image would be an improvement.
- comment0r 3y agoWindows 10 ist EoL very soon in 2024.
- trackflak 3y agoLaughs in LTSC
- accrual 3y agoFortunately the 2021 LTSC version EOLs 2027-01-12, so it should still be possible to use Windows 10 beyond 2024 assuming the user is okay with the steps needed to run LTSC.
- CoastalCoder 3y agoIt's been a while since I looked into using LTSC. Are the two options basically pirate it or pay huge sums of money?
- samstave 3y agoBecause I dont currently have enough swap space to switch the data/organize the data to make it easy to clone... I basically have to have a MANY ssd de-dupe capability btwn my machines and apps and various data... This is why I was hoping that an earlier announcement of AI enable desktop search could also auto-categorize organize de-dupe my stuffs... so apathy? Daunting process? Lack of tools? climate change (its too hot to do brain work)?
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- colejohnson66 3y agoWhat specs do the laptops have? Windows 11 has higher requirements than Windows 10.
- vladvasiliu 3y agoAnecdotally, on my not-officially-supported intel 3rd gen core, win11 has been a much snappier and all-around more pleasant experience than Windows 10. I'm not saying it's a great OS or anything, I only use it for games and Adobe stuff. But it almost made me consider using it for other things.
- samstave 3y agoFlagship HP Omen Gaming laptop 3060ti' rtx' 5700 cpu
- accrual 3y agoYou could try some of the tools to debloat and reduce telemetry in Windows 11, like O&O ShutUp and BloatyNosy. I'm running 11 on unsupported hardware that previously ran 10 fine, and so far no stability or performance issues.
- bastardoperator 3y agoIs it really fair to blame the software for overheating? Doesn't your motherboard control the fan speeds?
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoSome users are just clueless and need to vent on something they hate rather than on the thing that's actually causing the issue. If their car doesn't start in the morning it's Window's fault.
- samstave 3y agoYou missed the part where I have TWO PHYSICALLY IDENTICAL Machines - and YES I control the fans, but W11 turns them on when doing stupid shit like running chrome to watch videos... I can swap the SSDs between the two machines (which I have done, multiple times) - its W11 - not my inability to manage a laptop with a 40 year career in IT..
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoThe you must be the unluckiest person ever to have the only documented case of W11 causing overheating. At home and work we all switched to W11 from W10 and no such HW problems occurred over W10. Have you done a clean OS reinstall off official USB ISO? Most likely you have some rogue background process hammering your CPU. I had something similar on a Dell on Win 10 years before. Can't remember what it was.
- bastardoperator 3y agoWhy do you control the fans when the motherboard has a built in temperature sensor that will control them for you? Windows 11 consumes a standard interface like ACPI/PECI and uses that to collect system data. MSFT does have an article for people complaining about this issue, the accepted answer is updating your bios drivers/firmware.
- samstave 3y ago
- SketchySeaBeast 3y agoI honestly noticed zero day to day changes when I moved my PC from Windows 10 to 11. No less stable, no more performance issues, nothing. Your laptop overheating makes me think it's a lemon.
- BrandoElFollito 3y agoSame here, except for new defaults that are infuriating (notably the impossibility to ungroup icons in the taskbar). Otherwise it is the same product for me.
- binkHN 3y ago> ...ms has integrated ads I to the OS... Who would have thunk, ChromeOS, an OS from an advertising company, would have less ads than an OS from Microsoft?
- izzydata 3y agoWhy should they have to let me? It's my computer.
- clircle 3y agoYour computer, their os…
- JohnFen 3y agoMy first thought was similar: My, how gracious of them to allow me to do something on my own freaking machine.
- hdjjhhvvhga 3y agoTheir perspective on this point is diametrically different.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y agoThere used to be an icon on the desktop titled "My Computer". It's titled "This PC" now. That seems a sufficient summary of how MS/Windows views things.
- nightski 3y ago
- HeckFeck 3y agoGreat. Now let me do the same for all telemetry services. Also patch out the mandatory "microsoft account" while your at it.
- accrual 3y agoA lot of the telemetry can be disabled with tools like O&O ShutUp. It's not perfect and it'd be nice to have a built-in option, but at least it's something. I think you can also bypass the Microsoft account requirement by installing without internet access.
- accrual 3y agoI wonder if this is any different than the PowerShell "Remove-AppxPackage" commands that already were able to uninstall many default apps. Maybe it's just a nice UI on top of the existing functionality.
- tiffanyh 3y agoLTSC Windows LTSC is the version of Windows with all the cruft that people want removed, removed. No autoreboot, no MS store, no onedrive, no ads. (It's like what Windows use to be back in the day) https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/windows-client-roadmap-update-april-2023/ba-p/3805227 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/w...
- a1o 3y agoDoes Windows 11 LTSC already exists?
- tiffanyh 3y agoFrom the article I linked to: > "Today we're announcing that the next Windows LTSC releases will be available in the second half of 2024"
- doublerabbit 3y agoIt exists, but only unless if your an enterprise house or have some sort of contract with Microsoft.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y agoSure. Now if you could get MS to sell you LTSC...
- olyjohn 3y agoYou could always sail the seven seas. And if you feel guilty, just go buy a copy of Pro (or whatever the top version is) and run LTSC anyways. Not like with enough work you couldn't strip Pro down to an LTSC equivalent.
- jjoonathan 3y agoWindows Embedded was promoted as a way to use Windows in environments were "windows-isms" (update hijacking, nags, ads, spontaneous deactivation, etc) could have catastrophic consequences due to downtime and difficulty of mouse+keyboard access. Microsoft broke the contract. Informally, at least, I'm sure their lawyers made sure the fine print was on their side. One day I turned on my Windows 7 Embedded oscilloscope and got hit with a full-screen ad for Windows 11 that could only be dismissed by mouse. In my case I was able to just attach a mouse, but I've seen Windows Embedded used in environments where that would have been difficult and time-consuming (USB ports hidden or even glued to prevent physical access). Point is: Microsoft will happily sell you a special anti-abuse pass and then abuse you anyway. Be warned.
- tommek4077 3y agoHow generous ...
- meristohm 3y agoI know many are still using Windows for a host of reasons, and it feels great to be able to have unhitched my wagon from Microsoft. For months now I just use GNU/Linux, thanks to two things: there's a plugin for Calibre that obviates the need for Adobe Digital Editions (which I was having trouble getting to work on Linux, possibly due to my own ignorance), and giving up videogaming (some multiplayer games use anticheat software that doesn't play well with Linux, hence sticking with Windows. My friends and I are adjusting to other ways to stay in touch at a distance. They've been supportive, as gaming has been an unhealthy escape for me for decades and I hadn't told them until recently). Now I have more time to read, communicate, feel balanced and less distracted, and boast on social media (HN...) about how good it feels to have ditched Windows ;)
- arlcode 3y agoIt seems like the EU DSA and DMA would also apply to Microsoft. Could this be in preparation for when the laws come into force in early 2024?
- karaterobot 3y agoI wish Apple would let me uninstall Messages, News, and iTunes, and all their other first party software that I never use. Heck, I'd settle for them not running on their own. Apparently they are all load-bearing software, and removing them would cripple the OS.
- runjake 3y agoThis article and video were pretty helpful on eliminating all the Windows 11 bloat/cruft from the start: https://christitus.com/windows-11-perfect-install/ https://christitus.com/windows-11-perfect-install/ It: - Bypasses the installation of most of the junk apps using a non-messy region "hack". - Bypasses Microsoft account requirements. - Removes telemetry. - Gets rid of Edge. - None of it is too janky, and yeah, I did audit that GUI PowerShell app before running it.
- bhhaskin 3y agoI was able to remove all the bloat from windows a lot easier. Switched to Linux for my daily driver.