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It’s not open source, AFAICS? It is under the Elastic License, which is not an open source license as it limits use? „ You may not provide the software to thir
by jwildeboer 3y ago
It’s not open source, AFAICS? It is under the Elastic License, which is not an open source license as it limits use?
„ You may not provide the software to third parties as a hosted or managed
service, where the service provides users with access to any substantial set of
the features or functionality of the software.“
- hypercube33 3y agoAlso the name invokes "Ubiquity" the networking company.
- mcny 3y agoJust to be clear, we are talking about Ubiquiti. I am not fancy enough to own it's hardware but I like the android and iPhone app for Wi-Fi man which is an easy to use Internet speed testing thing for Android and iPhone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubiquiti https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubiquiti
- 2Gkashmiri 3y agooh boy. it is not "open source" but it certainly free software
- stingraycharles 3y agoWasn’t “free software” the kind of “free, as in speech” thing? E.g. “free software foundation”. But yeah I find this kind of comments always overly negative, when there’s an organization giving something away.
- Aeolun 3y agoSort of, but this kind of giving away often means you cannot use it at all because using anything not unencumbered is blocked by default.
- lionkor 3y agoThis is what happens when teams/companies dont know AGPL-3.0 - it would solve this issue almost entirely. Anyone building a competing product that is better would have to agree to publish their improvements.
- felixguendling 3y agoEven with if the third party provider makes no improvements, they can still provide it cheaper because ubicloud pays the development costs? This is a business threat that would not be mitigated by AGPL-3.0?
- lionkor 3y agoThats valid. Ubicloud could potentially make money with SLAs (support)
- darkwater 3y agoBut if they develop it and are the only ones developing it (because the rest are freeloaders by definition, since they make no improvement) then they would have the better knowledge of the product and could provide the better support, that should grant the more juicy clients.
- sofixa 3y agoEvaluating the quality of support at the purchasing stage could be downright impossible. If you see two products that look the same (and you haven't used them yet so can't see the difference, if any), and one is 30% cheaper, many would pick the cheaper version.
- felixguendling 3y agoLet's assume, Hetzner or OVH themself would just take Ubicloud and offer this as a service without paying any money to Ubicloud. In this case, many customers would just use the Hetzner/OVH offer (everything from the same vendor = more convenient) and Ubicloud has no way to make money. The AGPL license would not prevent IaaS providers from doing so. I think it's not easy to build a stable business as a company if everything is OpenSource. If Ubicloud would be a pure community project, that would be a different story.