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> The only reasonable solution is to ban all user tracking now. And that would impact tiktok how? The whole reason their is extra focus on them is because we c

> The only reasonable solution is to ban all user tracking now. And that would impact tiktok how? The whole reason their is extra focus on them is because we can't regulate them effective so your solution would amount to nothing.

amelius 3y ago
> And that would impact tiktok how? Well, as it stands they would fall under user tracking, and thus either would be banned or they would have to change their business model and open up to regulators. And remember, a law does not have to be perfect to serve as a deterrent for bad behavior. > your solution would amount to nothing. TikTok is only the tip of the iceberg, so a broader law that bans all user-tracking (including tiktok) can certainly do a lot more than just banning tiktok.
b112 3y ago
It would mean that apps discovered tracking users illegally, would be banned and fined locally. And that means any money leaving the US, or money entering the US, would be eaily seized to pay fines. Everything from money paid by app stores, from ads, to renting commercial real eatate in the valley, funds being transferred in country to pay employees, all of it can be seized. And the apps can be banned from all apps stores, and even eventually a court order to prevent any version from being preloaded. Anyone providing binaries could be fined per count, IP addresses of servers banned, DNS blacklisted, on and on. Plenty can, and will be done, because that's where all this is headed. And I might add, the above is "being a nice guy", compared to what China does in these circumstances.
WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
> And that would impact tiktok how? At this point it isn't relevant. What tiktok banners fear tiktok is doing - is actually being done by data brokers. Doesn't it make sense to deal with the actual threat before banning the imagined one?
rchaud 3y ago
Considering how often TT badgers you to enable access to your contacts or location, I think they would be somewhat chagrined by such a development.

amelius 3y ago

> And that would impact tiktok how? Well, as it stands they would fall under user tracking, and thus either would be banned or they would have to change their business model and open up to regulators. And remember, a law does not have to be perfect to serve as a deterrent for bad behavior. > your solution would amount to nothing. TikTok is only the tip of the iceberg, so a broader law that bans all user-tracking (including tiktok) can certainly do a lot more than just banning tiktok.

b112 3y ago

It would mean that apps discovered tracking users illegally, would be banned and fined locally. And that means any money leaving the US, or money entering the US, would be eaily seized to pay fines. Everything from money paid by app stores, from ads, to renting commercial real eatate in the valley, funds being transferred in country to pay employees, all of it can be seized. And the apps can be banned from all apps stores, and even eventually a court order to prevent any version from being preloaded. Anyone providing binaries could be fined per count, IP addresses of servers banned, DNS blacklisted, on and on. Plenty can, and will be done, because that's where all this is headed. And I might add, the above is "being a nice guy", compared to what China does in these circumstances.

WarOnPrivacy 3y ago

> And that would impact tiktok how? At this point it isn't relevant. What tiktok banners fear tiktok is doing - is actually being done by data brokers. Doesn't it make sense to deal with the actual threat before banning the imagined one?

rchaud 3y ago

Considering how often TT badgers you to enable access to your contacts or location, I think they would be somewhat chagrined by such a development.