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Getting targetted (mistakenly or not) by the law enforcement for certain minor offences seems to be one of the most dangerous things that can happen to you: the

Getting targetted (mistakenly or not) by the law enforcement for certain minor offences seems to be one of the most dangerous things that can happen to you: they won't investigate carefully and they won't presume you're innocent.

dpkirchner 3y ago
Something worth keeping in mind when people blame the victim with the classic "they should have complied!" retort.
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- sdfghswe 3y ago
  > Something worth keeping in mind when people blame the victim with the classic "they should have complied!" retort. I noticed it's more common to get that retort if the victim is black and/or poor. If the victim is a middle class white American, you don't hear that.
- imtringued 3y ago
  Compliance does nothing against American police violence. You're merely reducing the chance that they pull out a gun and execute you on the spot.
- phone8675309 3y ago
  A summary execution by cop, regardless of how much you resist, should not be the punishment for any crime, yet we have enough bootlickers and sycophants that want to give the police carte blanche (yet also claim to be skeptical of government power somehow).
winter_blue 3y ago
One particularly horrible exmaple of an innocent man being brutalized is that of James King: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HujPlUyTXRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HujPlUyTXRY Plainclothes officers acted like thugs/thieves, and then beat him up, and nearly murdered him. After that they charged him with an array of federal criminal offenses (including resisting arrest, assaulting them (the police), etc). This went all the way to a federal jury trial (which defendants rarely win), which he did win. The amount of emotional psychological trauma this must have caused is inexcusable. There's more details here: https://ij.org/case/king-v-brownback/ https://ij.org/case/king-v-brownback/ – quote: > Worse still, Kent County, Michigan, prosecutors refused to drop the charges. Instead, after James rejected a plea offer, prosecutors subjected him to a criminal trial. Thankfully, a jury acquitted James of all charges. If James had been convicted or pleaded guilty, he could have faced decades in prison, and it would have been nearly impossible for him to sue the officers and hold them to account for their actions that violated his constitutional rights.

dpkirchner 3y ago

Something worth keeping in mind when people blame the victim with the classic "they should have complied!" retort.

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sdfghswe 3y ago
> Something worth keeping in mind when people blame the victim with the classic "they should have complied!" retort. I noticed it's more common to get that retort if the victim is black and/or poor. If the victim is a middle class white American, you don't hear that.
imtringued 3y ago
Compliance does nothing against American police violence. You're merely reducing the chance that they pull out a gun and execute you on the spot.
phone8675309 3y ago
A summary execution by cop, regardless of how much you resist, should not be the punishment for any crime, yet we have enough bootlickers and sycophants that want to give the police carte blanche (yet also claim to be skeptical of government power somehow).

winter_blue 3y ago

One particularly horrible exmaple of an innocent man being brutalized is that of James King: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HujPlUyTXRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HujPlUyTXRY Plainclothes officers acted like thugs/thieves, and then beat him up, and nearly murdered him. After that they charged him with an array of federal criminal offenses (including resisting arrest, assaulting them (the police), etc). This went all the way to a federal jury trial (which defendants rarely win), which he did win. The amount of emotional psychological trauma this must have caused is inexcusable. There's more details here: https://ij.org/case/king-v-brownback/ https://ij.org/case/king-v-brownback/ – quote: > Worse still, Kent County, Michigan, prosecutors refused to drop the charges. Instead, after James rejected a plea offer, prosecutors subjected him to a criminal trial. Thankfully, a jury acquitted James of all charges. If James had been convicted or pleaded guilty, he could have faced decades in prison, and it would have been nearly impossible for him to sue the officers and hold them to account for their actions that violated his constitutional rights.