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Everyone is happy when the government throws free money at them. That's why even the most climate denying and self proclaimed "fiscally conservative" politician

by Aunche 3y ago

Everyone is happy when the government throws free money at them. That's why even the most climate denying and self proclaimed "fiscally conservative" politicians will vote for subsidizing new solar jobs in their free state. What people get up and arms about are policies that destroy jobs or make things more expensive. This why all climate-change related legislation is about throwing free money at the problem rather than pricing in the externality in bad environmental practices. Even in the farthest left of politicians only make vague suggestions of a carbon tax because they know that they'd immediately get kicked out of office if they allowed gasoline prices to rise to what they are in Europe, let taxing all sources of greenhouse gases.

jvanderbot 3y ago
"destroy jobs" > Jobs up 95% "more expensive" > free money.
- Aunche 3y ago
  You're acting as if I made a contraction, but I didn't. Montana is getting sued because they aren't destroying jobs, and neither is any other state. The government is granting free money to people who buy solar panels, EVs, etc which is why jobs are being created.
- nonethewiser 3y ago
  What are you trying to say?
datavirtue 3y ago
I see people up in arms about massive solar farm installations in Ohio. I'm not sure what the issues are as no one has ever quantified them other than to say "I moved here because of the fields" or "They are gobbling up good farm land for solar panels." You see signs everywhere: "Say NO to Solar!" As an Appalachian I recognize this as a miss. These people could have easily legislated (and still can!) a cut of the energy $$ to themselves. Instead they are trying to burn it all down and will be unsuccessful at it. Where is JD Vance or Mike DeWine on that one? Probably too busy ducking energy policy corruption charges.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  They say "Look at the fields of solar panels, they're so ugly!" I imagine these people have never seen a coal mine.
- Aunche 3y ago
  That's not really about an opposition to green energy though. It's your standard NIMBY excuses about ruining the view and whatnot.

by Aunche 3y ago

jvanderbot 3y ago

"destroy jobs" > Jobs up 95% "more expensive" > free money.

Aunche 3y ago
You're acting as if I made a contraction, but I didn't. Montana is getting sued because they aren't destroying jobs, and neither is any other state. The government is granting free money to people who buy solar panels, EVs, etc which is why jobs are being created.
nonethewiser 3y ago
What are you trying to say?

datavirtue 3y ago

I see people up in arms about massive solar farm installations in Ohio. I'm not sure what the issues are as no one has ever quantified them other than to say "I moved here because of the fields" or "They are gobbling up good farm land for solar panels." You see signs everywhere: "Say NO to Solar!" As an Appalachian I recognize this as a miss. These people could have easily legislated (and still can!) a cut of the energy $$ to themselves. Instead they are trying to burn it all down and will be unsuccessful at it. Where is JD Vance or Mike DeWine on that one? Probably too busy ducking energy policy corruption charges.

mrguyorama 3y ago
They say "Look at the fields of solar panels, they're so ugly!" I imagine these people have never seen a coal mine.
Aunche 3y ago
That's not really about an opposition to green energy though. It's your standard NIMBY excuses about ruining the view and whatnot.