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We use confluence and jira, an d for some reason it seems perfectly usable compared to others stories here. It's not a small organization either, so I wonder if

We use confluence and jira, an d for some reason it seems perfectly usable compared to others stories here. It's not a small organization either, so I wonder if it's some misconfiguration that's killing performance for others?

xwowsersx 3y ago
That's quite possible! I'd love to know what it is. If it's somehow a consequence of the total number and age of stories since our account's beginning, I'm not sure what we could really do about that other than to do bulk deleting which...we really don't want to do.
_s 3y ago
Have you used other tools like linear? The performance difference is striking. Atlassian tools are decent enough, and mostly usable is how I'd describe them. I'd take anything else though, even Rally.
- xwowsersx 3y ago
  I have. Linear is great, although I didn't use it as extensively as Jira. Wish we could use it.
prpl 3y ago
javascript from every installed plug-in ends up in batch.js and first loads for the day are slow if you use plugins in your instance.
MBCook 3y ago
It could be a plug-in. But anecdotally I’ve also heard the cloud version is much worse than on-prem, which if true could explain the big differences too.
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- TheNewsIsHere 3y ago
  I’ve used both Jira and Confluence on premise and Atlassian Cloud. For what you pay (when you pay), the cloud service performance is an absolute joke. It’s god awful slow compared to alternatives, even with small orgs and datasets.
yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
It is 100% possible that it's a config thing... but I've used Jira on-prem with a fairly complex setup and in the cloud hosted version with what I believe to be the simplest out-of-the-box setup it has and both were terrible at performance, so... if Atlassian themselves can't tune it right, I'm comfortable saying it's just bad (or at least) software. EDIT: Someone else in the comments suggested that the cloud version is slower than on-prem. This might account for things; if I've only seen complex on-prem and simple cloud, it might well be that simple on-prem can be fast. But... that's still concluding that Atlassian themselves can't make their own software performant, so it's not exactly a redeeming quality.
- mrweasel 3y ago
  We had a pretty complex on-prem Jira/Confluence/Bitbucket/Bamboo setup with pretty good performance, at least good enough that it wasn't something we thought or complained about. We also managed and used cloud installation for customers, those pretty much always felt slower. We did have a fairly large number of Atlassian certified people in the company, all of which are probably A-tier when it comes to managing Jira, so that might have helped our on-prem performance. It's not like we had massive database and application servers running the software, but we might very well have thrown more hardware at it than Atlassian does per client.
fatnoah 3y ago
> We use confluence and jira, an d for some reason it seems perfectly usable compared to others stories here. I've been using Jira Cloud off and on at various startups and it always had its slow moments. At my most recent startup, it's been working very well with no slowness thay I'm aware of (knocks on wood), and that includes all of the stuff I do directly via API.

xwowsersx 3y ago

That's quite possible! I'd love to know what it is. If it's somehow a consequence of the total number and age of stories since our account's beginning, I'm not sure what we could really do about that other than to do bulk deleting which...we really don't want to do.

_s 3y ago

Have you used other tools like linear? The performance difference is striking. Atlassian tools are decent enough, and mostly usable is how I'd describe them. I'd take anything else though, even Rally.

xwowsersx 3y ago
I have. Linear is great, although I didn't use it as extensively as Jira. Wish we could use it.

prpl 3y ago

javascript from every installed plug-in ends up in batch.js and first loads for the day are slow if you use plugins in your instance.

MBCook 3y ago

It could be a plug-in. But anecdotally I’ve also heard the cloud version is much worse than on-prem, which if true could explain the big differences too.

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TheNewsIsHere 3y ago
I’ve used both Jira and Confluence on premise and Atlassian Cloud. For what you pay (when you pay), the cloud service performance is an absolute joke. It’s god awful slow compared to alternatives, even with small orgs and datasets.

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago

It is 100% possible that it's a config thing... but I've used Jira on-prem with a fairly complex setup and in the cloud hosted version with what I believe to be the simplest out-of-the-box setup it has and both were terrible at performance, so... if Atlassian themselves can't tune it right, I'm comfortable saying it's just bad (or at least) software. EDIT: Someone else in the comments suggested that the cloud version is slower than on-prem. This might account for things; if I've only seen complex on-prem and simple cloud, it might well be that simple on-prem can be fast. But... that's still concluding that Atlassian themselves can't make their own software performant, so it's not exactly a redeeming quality.

mrweasel 3y ago
We had a pretty complex on-prem Jira/Confluence/Bitbucket/Bamboo setup with pretty good performance, at least good enough that it wasn't something we thought or complained about. We also managed and used cloud installation for customers, those pretty much always felt slower. We did have a fairly large number of Atlassian certified people in the company, all of which are probably A-tier when it comes to managing Jira, so that might have helped our on-prem performance. It's not like we had massive database and application servers running the software, but we might very well have thrown more hardware at it than Atlassian does per client.

fatnoah 3y ago

> We use confluence and jira, an d for some reason it seems perfectly usable compared to others stories here. I've been using Jira Cloud off and on at various startups and it always had its slow moments. At my most recent startup, it's been working very well with no slowness thay I'm aware of (knocks on wood), and that includes all of the stuff I do directly via API.