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I'm sure someone has already pointed out the irony of a story about a kid that refuses to grow up being granted perpetual copyright. I would have rather the go
by version_five 3y ago
I'm sure someone has already pointed out the irony of a story about a kid that refuses to grow up being granted perpetual copyright.
I would have rather the government (through a third party) estimated the present value of the hypothetical royalties and set up an endowment if they wanted to support this hospital, rather than pervert copyright law for special interests.
- cryptonector 3y agoMost of the relevant copyrights are expired everywhere. The last ones expire this coming December.
- boomboomsubban 3y agoExcept in the UK, where a 1988 act provides special copyright status to "Peter Pan" that gives GOSH royalties for performances and adaptations, publications and broadcasts forever.
- cryptonector 3y agoOh, thanks for that correction.
- barbazoo 3y agoIt would really suck if all of a sudden the government would have to make sure the hospital is fully funded. /s
- hgsgm 3y agoStrange because in the UK, hospitals are allegedly fully funded by the government.
- chris_wot 3y agoNot after over a decade of Tory rule.
- rjmunro 3y agoThe hospital is "fully" funded, which means they pay for doctors and treatments and stuff, but most (maybe all) UK hospitals have a charity arm that pays for some extras, like refurbishment of rest and waiting areas and things like toys for kids to play with. Because Great Ormond Street is the UKs top children's hospital, kids get referred there from all over the country so their charity also fund places for families to stay nearby and sometimes pay for travel. Great Ormond Street's charity raises enough money to also make grants for research into childhood disease and stuff. https://www.gosh.org/what-we-do/ https://www.gosh.org/what-we-do/
- rvnx 3y ago"The various uses of Peter Pan that have given the hospital money throughout most of the years since Barrie's death in 1937, will continue in the UK at least thanks to former prime minister Jim Callaghan. Encouraged by his wife Audrey, who was a chairwoman of Great Ormond Street, Callaghan successfully campaigned to get the UK's 1988 copyright act amended to give the hospital the unique right to royalties from stage performances of Peter Pan and any adaptation of the play forever." Very convenient.
- thathndude 3y agoA little marital cronyism! Gotta love it. To be clear, I’m fully in support of the cause. But this is still cronyism.
- rvnx 3y agoCool word to learn as non-native English speaker! Never heard of it before. I thought you were mentioning Cryonism, or Crayonism. I wondered what kind of religion that was.
- Jochim 3y agoIt's the word that's used in place of "corruption" when speaking of one's own country. Corruption is a rude and dirty word. It's use would besmirch the good reputation of those engaging in it. Cronyism is considered much more polite.
- mnw21cam 3y agoCronyism is a specific subclass of corruption.
- ekianjo 3y agoHow is that even legal?
- boomboomsubban 3y agoThe UK passed a law saying it is?
- bckygldstn 3y agoYep, here it is! https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/48/part/VII/crossheading/provisions-for-the-benefit-of-the-hospital-for-sick-children https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/48/part/VII/crossh...
- ekianjo 3y agoCan they pass a law to cancel all copyright as well?
- boomboomsubban 3y agoYes, though as they signed the WIPO copyright treaty that would piss off ~80% of the world.
- CameronNemo 3y agoUK has no (codified) constitution. They can just write whatever weird shit they want and call it law, for the most part. Parliamentary sovereignty is often seen as a central element in the British constitution, although its extent is contested. It means that an Act of Parliament is the highest form of law, but also that "Parliament cannot bind itself". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kin...
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- thathndude 3y agoAnd it only took damn-near a century after the author’s death for it to expire. Copyright law on both sides of the pond is asinine. The supporters of copyright fear monger and present a parade of horribles that will flow if excessive copyright isn’t allowed. (Folks will “abuse” the Mickey Mouse character via pornography, etc). But I think history has, and will continue to, prove out that these are BS and that it’s all just a cash grab.
- concordDance 3y ago> Folks will “abuse” the Mickey Mouse character via pornography, etc Clearly these people haven't actually looked at cartoon porn sites.
- rjmunro 3y agoThat's not even copyright, that's Trademarks and maybe registered design patents. If I draw fan art of Mickey Mouse, it's copyright me, not Disney. If I sell it or use it for promoting something, then it's probably a violation of Disney's trademarks - trademarks are there to make sure you don't think something was made by one entity when it was actually made by another. Trademarks don't expire after 50 or 80 years or whatever. They exist as long as the holder continues to assert them.