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I can't say I agree, if someone made a high effort post arguing for eating the rich, I personally would still flag it because I flag all calls to violence, whet

I can't say I agree, if someone made a high effort post arguing for eating the rich, I personally would still flag it because I flag all calls to violence, whether they are low effort or not. (Some people say "eat the rich" to mean "redistribute wealth through taxation," if I could tell that's what they meant I probably wouldn't flag it, other people uh, don't. Maybe the recipe you referenced is a policy proposal, let me know if I've misread you.)

defrost 3y ago
How is advocating for eating the rich a call for violence though? Are you assuming it's a call to kill them rather than a plea to not waste the protein? The thing many people fail to realise about the Fore people in PNG was that their cannibalism was a mortuary rite of reverance for highly valued in group members that weren't killed for sustenance. I can quote a paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2581657/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2581657/ or simply say I learnt that first hand 40+ years back as child tagging along on supply runs with Mike Alpers (see Author list). Now .. given you might have gained a snippet of new infomation, how do you feel about upvoting this comment about eating high value members of society?
- maxbond 3y ago
  I wasn't born yesterday.
  - DonHopkins 3y ago
    I love babies! ...I just can't eat a whole one.
  - defrost 3y ago
    Hmm - a self evident non sequitur that fails to address a real point about the actual world and the assumptions made by people about both violence and cannabalism. That's a poor comment from yourself- I'd hoped for better.
    - maxbond 3y ago
      If you'd like a higher quality response, sophistry and performative disappointment isn't the way to get it. I'm not going to give a serious detailed response to an unserious comment, I'm going to find a better use for my time.
      - defrost 3y ago
        I don't follow you at all I'm afraid. I'm completely serious about the facts here: * You don't have to kill people in order to eat them, * I've had cannibals as babysitters in PNG as a child, * I'm much the same age as Mike Alpers own children who I know from my days in university. etc. You claim to not be engaged with such topics because <<violence>> and I've quite accurately pointed out that violence isn't a neccesity here. Why, exactly, are you having a little tantrum here?
        maxbond 3y ago
        If you need further clarification about why I don't take it seriously when I talk about a meme about a violent uprising and you pivot the conversation to ritual cannibalism, I encourage you to consult your preferred dictionary regarding "sophistry". If you want to convince me that you're earnestly trying to have a real conversation, being insulting isn't going to help.
        defrost 3y ago
        I didn't pivot at all, if you scroll back you'll see for a fact that it was yourself that introduced the topic of eating the rich. You advocated for raising that as a thread topic. I'm familar with several dictionares, nothing I have said has been false. Be explicit - what exactly do you consider to be sophistry here? We can talk about prion disease and its relation to eating brain matter (the Fore and mad cow disease), the history of funerary practices, the European fad for eating ground up mummies, the UK practice of eating parts of executed criminals, etc. All of these relate to the topic that you suggested .. and the topic you apparently wish to tap out on when faced with someone happy to take it on.
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  > Are you assuming it's a call to kill them rather than a plea to not waste the protein? It could possibly be such a plea if the implication is that their death is already imminent. Which means it's still advocating their downfall. This isn't about cannibalism and your comments here are a waste of everyone's time.

defrost 3y ago

How is advocating for eating the rich a call for violence though? Are you assuming it's a call to kill them rather than a plea to not waste the protein? The thing many people fail to realise about the Fore people in PNG was that their cannibalism was a mortuary rite of reverance for highly valued in group members that weren't killed for sustenance. I can quote a paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2581657/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2581657/ or simply say I learnt that first hand 40+ years back as child tagging along on supply runs with Mike Alpers (see Author list). Now .. given you might have gained a snippet of new infomation, how do you feel about upvoting this comment about eating high value members of society?

maxbond 3y ago
I wasn't born yesterday.
- DonHopkins 3y ago
  I love babies! ...I just can't eat a whole one.
- defrost 3y ago
  Hmm - a self evident non sequitur that fails to address a real point about the actual world and the assumptions made by people about both violence and cannabalism. That's a poor comment from yourself- I'd hoped for better.
  - maxbond 3y ago
    If you'd like a higher quality response, sophistry and performative disappointment isn't the way to get it. I'm not going to give a serious detailed response to an unserious comment, I'm going to find a better use for my time.
    - defrost 3y ago
      I don't follow you at all I'm afraid. I'm completely serious about the facts here: * You don't have to kill people in order to eat them, * I've had cannibals as babysitters in PNG as a child, * I'm much the same age as Mike Alpers own children who I know from my days in university. etc. You claim to not be engaged with such topics because <<violence>> and I've quite accurately pointed out that violence isn't a neccesity here. Why, exactly, are you having a little tantrum here?
      - maxbond 3y ago
        If you need further clarification about why I don't take it seriously when I talk about a meme about a violent uprising and you pivot the conversation to ritual cannibalism, I encourage you to consult your preferred dictionary regarding "sophistry". If you want to convince me that you're earnestly trying to have a real conversation, being insulting isn't going to help.
        defrost 3y ago
        I didn't pivot at all, if you scroll back you'll see for a fact that it was yourself that introduced the topic of eating the rich. You advocated for raising that as a thread topic. I'm familar with several dictionares, nothing I have said has been false. Be explicit - what exactly do you consider to be sophistry here? We can talk about prion disease and its relation to eating brain matter (the Fore and mad cow disease), the history of funerary practices, the European fad for eating ground up mummies, the UK practice of eating parts of executed criminals, etc. All of these relate to the topic that you suggested .. and the topic you apparently wish to tap out on when faced with someone happy to take it on.
Dylan16807 3y ago
> Are you assuming it's a call to kill them rather than a plea to not waste the protein? It could possibly be such a plea if the implication is that their death is already imminent. Which means it's still advocating their downfall. This isn't about cannibalism and your comments here are a waste of everyone's time.