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> If you’re standing outside a cardiothoracic operating theatre, you have a better chance than the majority who will be miles away living their lives. Most of

> If you’re standing outside a cardiothoracic operating theatre, you have a better chance than the majority who will be miles away living their lives. Most of the time you don't, but sometimes you get lucky. When Neil Clarke had his "widowmaker" heart attack he was at a conference down the street from a hospital[0]. In another case, an new father suffered an aortic dissection walking in the front door of Brigham and Women's Hospital[1]. [0] http://neil-clarke.com/the-day-it-nearly-ended/ http://neil-clarke.com/the-day-it-nearly-ended/ [1] https://bwhpublicationsarchives.org/DisplayBulletin.aspx?articleid=4723 https://bwhpublicationsarchives.org/DisplayBulletin.aspx?art...

js2 3y ago
A previous boss of mine had a heart attack while finishing a 5K turkey trot. He happened to be nearby multiple emergency and medical personal who started administering CPR immediately. He survived and still runs. https://archive.ph/Yc4gU https://archive.ph/Yc4gU Bob Odenkirk was also very lucky that through a set of unusual circumstances, there was an AED available when he had a heart attack on set: > Rosa Estrada — we were very lucky that this woman was nearby because she knew how to do CPR properly, and she had the AED [defibrillator] in her car, and she only had it in her car because she was returning it to somebody who she borrowed [it from]. It was a total crazy coincidence that she had put it in her car, and I guess she'd had tried to return it, but the friend wasn't home. Otherwise she wouldn't have had it either. And so it's only because of that circumstance that it was in the trunk of her car. And I'm sure that helped me immensely. I mean, the CPR is number one, but the fact is, I didn't get a heart rate for 18 minutes after this started, and that's a long time. https://www.npr.org/2022/07/25/1112731181/better-call-saul-breaking-bad-bob-odenkirk-peter-gould-heart-attack https://www.npr.org/2022/07/25/1112731181/better-call-saul-b...
- lasr_velocirptr 3y ago
  I wonder if it makes sense in this day and age to have AEDs as part of first aid kit? There is an issue that people require adequate training to use one properly. Maybe, we could subsidize AED for people that have taken advanced CPR class Without looking at the statistics, I wonder how many lives can be saved if there are enough people trained to use AED and provide CPR considering in a lot of areas it can be a while before ambulance shows up
  - endgame 3y ago
    AEDs are present in a lot of public-space first aid supplied these days: supermarkets, shopping centres, etc. When you turn them on, an automated voice guides you through every step. They're not idiot-proof, but they're pretty close.
  - user_7832 3y ago
    Don't quote me on this, but I think AEDs are quite pricy (I think in the range of 10-20k USD). They could totally be on an emergency kit if you or your organization has billionaires but otherwise are better utilized in common places.
  - SirMaster 3y ago
    When I worked as a lifeguard in high school (2003-2006) at the high school indoor pool we had an AED that hung in a box attached to the wall. If I recall, I think we practiced with a dummy one during lifeguard training, but they are more ore less automated and a voice walks you through the process. I think most people would be able to use one successfully, without any prior training.

js2 3y ago

A previous boss of mine had a heart attack while finishing a 5K turkey trot. He happened to be nearby multiple emergency and medical personal who started administering CPR immediately. He survived and still runs. https://archive.ph/Yc4gU https://archive.ph/Yc4gU Bob Odenkirk was also very lucky that through a set of unusual circumstances, there was an AED available when he had a heart attack on set: > Rosa Estrada — we were very lucky that this woman was nearby because she knew how to do CPR properly, and she had the AED [defibrillator] in her car, and she only had it in her car because she was returning it to somebody who she borrowed [it from]. It was a total crazy coincidence that she had put it in her car, and I guess she'd had tried to return it, but the friend wasn't home. Otherwise she wouldn't have had it either. And so it's only because of that circumstance that it was in the trunk of her car. And I'm sure that helped me immensely. I mean, the CPR is number one, but the fact is, I didn't get a heart rate for 18 minutes after this started, and that's a long time. https://www.npr.org/2022/07/25/1112731181/better-call-saul-breaking-bad-bob-odenkirk-peter-gould-heart-attack https://www.npr.org/2022/07/25/1112731181/better-call-saul-b...

lasr_velocirptr 3y ago
I wonder if it makes sense in this day and age to have AEDs as part of first aid kit? There is an issue that people require adequate training to use one properly. Maybe, we could subsidize AED for people that have taken advanced CPR class Without looking at the statistics, I wonder how many lives can be saved if there are enough people trained to use AED and provide CPR considering in a lot of areas it can be a while before ambulance shows up
- endgame 3y ago
  AEDs are present in a lot of public-space first aid supplied these days: supermarkets, shopping centres, etc. When you turn them on, an automated voice guides you through every step. They're not idiot-proof, but they're pretty close.
- user_7832 3y ago
  Don't quote me on this, but I think AEDs are quite pricy (I think in the range of 10-20k USD). They could totally be on an emergency kit if you or your organization has billionaires but otherwise are better utilized in common places.
- SirMaster 3y ago
  When I worked as a lifeguard in high school (2003-2006) at the high school indoor pool we had an AED that hung in a box attached to the wall. If I recall, I think we practiced with a dummy one during lifeguard training, but they are more ore less automated and a voice walks you through the process. I think most people would be able to use one successfully, without any prior training.