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Using your example of the stock market, thinking critically about money also entails understanding how the stock market works. Most people don't understand how

Using your example of the stock market, thinking critically about money also entails understanding how the stock market works. Most people don't understand how it's built in the first place. When buying a "stock", one is actually buying a derivative of a derivative. Extending the idea of thinking critically about money, it's a safe bet that a majority of the population have no idea how money itself is issued or who issues it. "Most investors when they buy a publicly traded stock believe that they own a part of some company. They think that somewhere there is a stock certificate or some indication of ownership that has their name on it, but this is not the case. When you buy a “stock” you are actually purchasing a security that affords certain entitlement rights related to registered stock which actual owners hold. The registered shares of a private company are directly owned by shareholders. In contrast, the registered shares of nearly all publicly traded equities are owned by Cede & Co., which is the nominee of the Depository Trust Company (DTC). (A nominee is a company whose name is given as having title to a stock, but does not receive the financial benefits of ownership.) Cede is a subsidiary of the Depository Trust Company (DTC) which is a subsidiary of the Depository Trust and Clearing Corporation (DTCC) and the DTCC is a private company owned by elite Wall Street firms and money center banks. If you need background or a refresher on DTC and DTCC, click on this link. Effectively, elite Wall Street firms and money center banks, not institutions and individual investors, own almost all of the registered shares of publicly traded companies in the US... Effectively, you are buying a financial derivative from brokers of a financial derivative they hold from Cede that is just a digital entry in your DTC account." [0] [0] https://smithonstocks.com/part-8-illegal-naked-shorting-series-who-or-what-is-cede-and-what-role-does-cede-play-in-the-trading-of-stocks/ https://smithonstocks.com/part-8-illegal-naked-shorting-seri...

chii 3y ago
The long winded post of your simply is just spreading a form of FUD. What does owning a stock mean, if it doesn't mean owning all entitlements, rights and obligations related to said stock? The technical financial structure is a bit irrelevant, since this structure is created to reduce transaction costs. It made ownership of stocks much more accessible, and thus, more people could buy into it. The idea you presented - that you don't really "own" the stock, because some other party is holding it in trust - is simply not true. After all, you do the same with the money in your bank account. Unless, of course, you're one of the few people remaining that hold out with hard cash, or even physical gold.
- celtoid 3y ago
  The author of the explainer was an Executive VP at Smith Barney. Perhaps you should read what he's sharing.
  - chii 3y ago
    There's copious amounts of allegations of illegal naked short selling but zero actual evidence - not even circumstantial evidence. The article mentions coincidences that might've happened, by citing how stock prices seems to adjust to news so quickly as to being evidence of it being manipulated. I would not trust the article. It reeks of the same conspiracy theory as https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/ https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
    - celtoid 3y ago
      I'll believe a Wall St veteran over a nameless internet person. Thanks though.
  - flaviut 3y ago
    Executive VP at a bank is just a standard rank-and-file role. It is not a leadership position.
  - paulryanrogers 3y ago
    Meh, appeal to authority reinforcing a densely packed post doesn't win me over. Still appreciate they took the time, and it's helpful to know details. I'd prefer it was shorter and approachable to outsiders like myself.
- CraigJPerry 3y ago
  Hubris. >> What does owning a stock mean Ownership requires property rights but you only get contractual rights. If you want to sell your stock and you both parties want to conduct that transaction under a different jurisdiction, perhaps for tax advantage, you can't choose to do that, because you don't own the property rights. >> The technical financial structure is a bit irrelevant That's a pretty controversial take because: >> since this structure is created to reduce transaction costs It also served to ensure a middleman was enshrined in all future transactions. What if you want to change the middleman, what if you don't want a middleman at all? Like I say, controversial. >> you don't really "own" the stock, because some other party is holding it in trust - is simply not true. History shouts loudly for us to be cautious here but presently we're blessed with a freedom to blissfully ignore those warnings. >> you do the same with the money in your bank account You don't. In one scenario you're a party to a private contract and in the other you're under-written to the tune of $250k (assuming USA) >> hold out with hard cash What does that mean in the context of a fiat currency?
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chii 3y ago

The long winded post of your simply is just spreading a form of FUD. What does owning a stock mean, if it doesn't mean owning all entitlements, rights and obligations related to said stock? The technical financial structure is a bit irrelevant, since this structure is created to reduce transaction costs. It made ownership of stocks much more accessible, and thus, more people could buy into it. The idea you presented - that you don't really "own" the stock, because some other party is holding it in trust - is simply not true. After all, you do the same with the money in your bank account. Unless, of course, you're one of the few people remaining that hold out with hard cash, or even physical gold.

celtoid 3y ago
The author of the explainer was an Executive VP at Smith Barney. Perhaps you should read what he's sharing.
- chii 3y ago
  There's copious amounts of allegations of illegal naked short selling but zero actual evidence - not even circumstantial evidence. The article mentions coincidences that might've happened, by citing how stock prices seems to adjust to news so quickly as to being evidence of it being manipulated. I would not trust the article. It reeks of the same conspiracy theory as https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/ https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
  - celtoid 3y ago
    I'll believe a Wall St veteran over a nameless internet person. Thanks though.
- flaviut 3y ago
  Executive VP at a bank is just a standard rank-and-file role. It is not a leadership position.
- paulryanrogers 3y ago
  Meh, appeal to authority reinforcing a densely packed post doesn't win me over. Still appreciate they took the time, and it's helpful to know details. I'd prefer it was shorter and approachable to outsiders like myself.
CraigJPerry 3y ago
Hubris. >> What does owning a stock mean Ownership requires property rights but you only get contractual rights. If you want to sell your stock and you both parties want to conduct that transaction under a different jurisdiction, perhaps for tax advantage, you can't choose to do that, because you don't own the property rights. >> The technical financial structure is a bit irrelevant That's a pretty controversial take because: >> since this structure is created to reduce transaction costs It also served to ensure a middleman was enshrined in all future transactions. What if you want to change the middleman, what if you don't want a middleman at all? Like I say, controversial. >> you don't really "own" the stock, because some other party is holding it in trust - is simply not true. History shouts loudly for us to be cautious here but presently we're blessed with a freedom to blissfully ignore those warnings. >> you do the same with the money in your bank account You don't. In one scenario you're a party to a private contract and in the other you're under-written to the tune of $250k (assuming USA) >> hold out with hard cash What does that mean in the context of a fiat currency?

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