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Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? I would gladly pay money for Youtube, but I'd sooner eat a live subway rat than pay money to Youtube. Even if I bel

Am I super happy about paying for YouTube? I would gladly pay money for Youtube, but I'd sooner eat a live subway rat than pay money to Youtube. Even if I believed a for-profit model were appropriate for the largest repository of the world's video content, I wouldn't want AlphaGoogle to be the company implementing that model.

chii 3y ago
So if youtube wasn't owned by google, you'd be happy to have paid? I actually think this is irrational, because reason google is forcing thru anti-consumer features is _because_ they can't get enough revenue out of youtube!
- gameoverhumans 3y ago
  Youtube generates tens of billions of dollars in revenue per year, for a company that generates hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue per year. If you're skeptical about how/if massive corporations are able to leverage their market power and monopolization to generate monstrous profits and force through very anti-consumer features, I'd encourage you to read Goliath from Matt Stoller: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Goliath/Matt-Stoller/9781501182891 https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Goliath/Matt-Stoller/...
- bsder 3y ago
  > So if youtube wasn't owned by google, you'd be happy to have paid? Maybe. YouTube should have to police copyright for the little guys as strongly as they do for the big guys. Instead, YouTube is happy to flat out steal content from little guys while stomping all over fair use when the big guys are involved. I don't wish to support that. I want YouTube to go under so we can maybe get a video site that doesn't suck.
- realusername 3y ago
  I'm not against paying premium personally but the pricing is INSANE, it's probably 10x higher than what they would get with ads per user. I'm skeptical they even consider YouTube premium a real option internally or if it's just there for potential regulators. I also don't like the trend to blame adblock, Google is losing money now because there's an advertising scandal where they lied to customers, that's not adblocks fault.

chii 3y ago

So if youtube wasn't owned by google, you'd be happy to have paid? I actually think this is irrational, because reason google is forcing thru anti-consumer features is _because_ they can't get enough revenue out of youtube!

gameoverhumans 3y ago
Youtube generates tens of billions of dollars in revenue per year, for a company that generates hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue per year. If you're skeptical about how/if massive corporations are able to leverage their market power and monopolization to generate monstrous profits and force through very anti-consumer features, I'd encourage you to read Goliath from Matt Stoller: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Goliath/Matt-Stoller/9781501182891 https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Goliath/Matt-Stoller/...
bsder 3y ago
> So if youtube wasn't owned by google, you'd be happy to have paid? Maybe. YouTube should have to police copyright for the little guys as strongly as they do for the big guys. Instead, YouTube is happy to flat out steal content from little guys while stomping all over fair use when the big guys are involved. I don't wish to support that. I want YouTube to go under so we can maybe get a video site that doesn't suck.
realusername 3y ago
I'm not against paying premium personally but the pricing is INSANE, it's probably 10x higher than what they would get with ads per user. I'm skeptical they even consider YouTube premium a real option internally or if it's just there for potential regulators. I also don't like the trend to blame adblock, Google is losing money now because there's an advertising scandal where they lied to customers, that's not adblocks fault.