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What do you mean still? They’re only a few years old at this point. It shouldn’t be impressive that a basically new computer still does everything that one wou
by ThrowAway1922A 3y ago
What do you mean still? They’re only a few years old at this point.
It shouldn’t be impressive that a basically new computer still does everything that one would want to do.
- licebmi__at__ 3y agoNot OP, but I can describe a similar experience. Still feels better than brand new $current-year non m1 laptops.
- darthrupert 3y agoIt’s not a great thing, but most companies supply employees new laptops every 3 years if they want to keep those employees.
- GhostWhisperer 3y agois it rare the decommissioned machines are given back to the employee after cleanup?
- darthrupert 3y agoDepends on how the computers were procured. Leasing deals won’t allow that, for instance.
- gvurrdon 3y agoMy org insists that the disks of all obsolete machines are destroyed and the rest of the hardware sent for disposal. I have a few systems that could be wiped and given away for charity but that’s not allowed. This seems incredibly wasteful to me.
- GhostWhisperer 3y agoseems a lot of orgs work on cargo-cult knowledge https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/568915862003933184 https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/56891586200393318... (2015) https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1191771345362796544 https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/11917713453627965... (2019) i think swift had another post about it a bit more recently but i cannot find it now if you encrypt the disk at the os level, you only need to throw away the keys, ie: reformat the drive. no need to physically erase as what is store is just noise once the keys are gone.
- gvurrdon 3y agoThanks for the links. I wonder if it’s entirely that, or if management fears that staff might somehow gain a benefit by taking obsolete hardware.
- bombcar 3y agoThere’s a temptation that is removed by destroying or selling to a liquidator - and it removes any chance of apparent favoritism: Steve got to take home that twelve CPU rack mount and I just got an old mouse. But even more common in large companies is that it’s all on leases and goes back to the leasing company to be liquidated on eBay; you can always find miles of three or five year old gear there.
- GhostWhisperer 3y agoebay being the access normaliser to this equipment doesn't sound too bad it substitutes the internal network/hierarchy bias for a mostly monetary one
- GhostWhisperer 3y agomaybe there's no point for us to argue over the decisions of management
- Dalewyn 3y agoKeep in mind that people in their 30s and older today either grew up or lived their working years during a time when upgrading computers every year or two was the norm.
- memefrog 3y agoThat hasn't been necessary for 15 years.
- anonyfox 3y agoI still remember the joy of buying additional/bigger RAM sticks for my PC and then being able to do more demanding stuff much better :-)
- ThrowAway1922A 3y agoI remember those days, but that hasn't been the case since intel released the Core 2 line.
- tim333 3y agoAlso am M1 user. I remember back in my Windows days the things would slow dramatically over a couple of years mainly due to software bloat.
- bombcar 3y agoThat seems to have gotten better but I don’t know if it’s because I’m smarter on what I install, or if windows is better. The problem I have is Microsoft keeps shoving windows 11 down my throat; that damn start menu needs to remain where it was in 1995!
- anonyfox 3y agowindows 2000 was peak windows for me. only got worse afterwards one way or another... but hot take: windows 8 "metro" was kinda awesome refreshing though most people hated it :-)
- bombcar 3y agoW2K was certainly peak UI for me - all my windows machines run as close to that UI as I can get them.
- anonyfox 3y agoMore like: if I would lose it today, I would be the same thing again, maybe next gen M2/3, but everything basically identical to this one. There is no single other device out there I'd prefer to buy instead. Nothing shiny to chase thats better somehow...