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What was a "normal" editor in '08? After trying out finger-twister with Emacs, vim was a breath of fresh air, and had better features than plain "vi", like it

What was a "normal" editor in '08? After trying out finger-twister with Emacs, vim was a breath of fresh air, and had better features than plain "vi", like it was improved or something. Now, how do I save and exit?

loeg 3y ago
Notepad++ (Windows, 2003) / gedit (GNOME, 1998) / kwrite/kate (KDE, 2001) all existed in 2008 and are totally fine basic text editors for source code. I remember editing PHP in a more obscure editor (SciTE, 1999) on Windows in the early 2000s.
- rangerelf 3y ago
  Most of all those are gui based, when running a small Slackware setup without X none of those are available.
  - loeg 3y ago
    They're all GUIs. Most people using computers in the late 2000s were using GUIs, not X-less Slackware. You asked what "normal" was -- this is normal.
    - eimrine 3y ago
      Using GUI doesn't mean not using CLI.
      - loeg 3y ago
        This is not responsive to my comments.
  - rob74 3y ago
    You might be surprised to learn that the original version of Vim (on the Amiga: https://www.reddit.com/r/amiga/comments/l5j53m/the_text_editor_vim_as_we_know_it_was_born_on_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/amiga/comments/l5j53m/the_text_edit...) was a GUI based application! Ok, it didn't have much in the way of an actual GUI, but it ran in a window which wasn't the shell/CLI window. I guess the actual reason why Vim is a console application on Linux is the lack of a "standard" GUI framework.
    - loeg 3y ago
      > I guess the actual reason why Vim is a console application on Linux is the lack of a "standard" GUI framework. gvim (for GTK/Gnome) is an official part of vim!
    - IAmYourDensity 3y ago
      And was called "Vi IMitation" not "Vi IMproved"? Interesting.
  - IshKebab 3y ago
    How many people's first experience of computers is a small Slackware setup without X? This thread is hilarious.
jodrellblank 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors Sort by creation date, notepad, kedit, kwrite, notepad++, Scite, and plenty more.

loeg 3y ago

Notepad++ (Windows, 2003) / gedit (GNOME, 1998) / kwrite/kate (KDE, 2001) all existed in 2008 and are totally fine basic text editors for source code. I remember editing PHP in a more obscure editor (SciTE, 1999) on Windows in the early 2000s.

rangerelf 3y ago
Most of all those are gui based, when running a small Slackware setup without X none of those are available.
- loeg 3y ago
  They're all GUIs. Most people using computers in the late 2000s were using GUIs, not X-less Slackware. You asked what "normal" was -- this is normal.
  - eimrine 3y ago
    Using GUI doesn't mean not using CLI.
    - loeg 3y ago
      This is not responsive to my comments.
- rob74 3y ago
  You might be surprised to learn that the original version of Vim (on the Amiga: https://www.reddit.com/r/amiga/comments/l5j53m/the_text_editor_vim_as_we_know_it_was_born_on_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/amiga/comments/l5j53m/the_text_edit...) was a GUI based application! Ok, it didn't have much in the way of an actual GUI, but it ran in a window which wasn't the shell/CLI window. I guess the actual reason why Vim is a console application on Linux is the lack of a "standard" GUI framework.
  - loeg 3y ago
    > I guess the actual reason why Vim is a console application on Linux is the lack of a "standard" GUI framework. gvim (for GTK/Gnome) is an official part of vim!
  - IAmYourDensity 3y ago
    And was called "Vi IMitation" not "Vi IMproved"? Interesting.
- IshKebab 3y ago
  How many people's first experience of computers is a small Slackware setup without X? This thread is hilarious.

jodrellblank 3y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors Sort by creation date, notepad, kedit, kwrite, notepad++, Scite, and plenty more.