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Which is horrible, humanities are needed now more than ever. I am unable to count the number of tech and business grads who have no appreciation for ethics, or

Which is horrible, humanities are needed now more than ever. I am unable to count the number of tech and business grads who have no appreciation for ethics, or art, or community.

unsupp0rted 3y ago
> humanities are needed now more than ever Please elaborate
robocat 3y ago
So humanities are the only true moral compass for ethics and community. You seem to imply that tech and business grads are just evil.
- DocTomoe 3y ago
  The older I get, the more I would agree with that statement. Tech and business grads without a classical humanities side-education tend to become the worst people, hyperspecializinh on things that maximise profits at the cost of human suffering and environmental destruction.
  - ryan93 3y ago
    How do people not understand selection? Regardless think of all the world’s warmongers. Almost none were engineers. All the colonizers were humanities guys. Hitler and his top guys were art and humanities guys. Every president who bombs the innocent has been a history or poli sci major.
    - pessimizer 3y ago
      Thatcher?
      - ryan93 3y ago
        Thatcher on the one hand Nazis and centuries of colonization on the other. I’ll take it
- Spooky23 3y ago
  Not evil, just ignorant. I’m an engineer, I work with engineers. As a profession, we tend to lack EQ and real understanding of social issues. A lot of the bad decisions that have had an outsized impact on society were naive decisions made by tech companies out of that ignorance.
  - nemo44x 3y ago
    Yea, we need to train them that their opinions are wrong regarding whatever arbitrary thing the various elite classes think today. That their wrong think only gets in the way of the things we want.
    - Spooky23 3y ago
      Uninformed opinion is like an animal instinct — it means nothing. If your knowledge of philosophy mostly comes from Stocism memes, you don’t know much. The existence of widespread belief in reptilian overlords and other stupid shit is evidence of people hungry for understanding, but who lack the knowledge to overcome their ignorance.
    - flangola7 3y ago
      > whatever arbitrary thing the various elite classes think today No one here has said this. Stop hallucinating.
- flangola7 3y ago
  Many of them are evil, yes, some horrifically evil. I'm not implying it, I'm stating the fact directly. "Your men thought so hard about if they could they never stopped to think about if they should!"
- AtlasBarfed 3y ago
  Haha, let's delve into the humanities core: what is evil? Money is the root of all evil! Specifically, money is means where whatever evil was done to achieve some amassing of "wealth", once converted successfully into "money" it is washed of its sins and passed onward to successive generations with no exposure. This is a core of money combined with the limited liability corporation, the other major sociopath-washing mechanism of capitalism. Examples: - southern chattel slavery - oil/gas earnings with global warming - cigarette industry - prohibition-era criminal organizations, or really any outright organized criminals that manage to launder their money successfully - Chinese and Russian oligarchs exfiltrating their fortunes to the West The core component to the concept of money at the level of the elite is ethical and moral laundering.
nemo44x 3y ago
No they just don’t appreciate the ethics they say are the right ones, the art they say are the important ones, and the community they say is the better one. Most this crap is propagandized via the slow walk through the institutions. Scumbag grievance studies have bloated the humanities and have infected respectable studies like philosophy. They’ve become focused on what to think, not how to. If I wanted moralizing I’d go to church. At least they have the ethical decency to make paying optional to hear their opinions on how I should live.
fullshark 3y ago
I don't know about art, I think a lot of these grads you speak of are just myopic and ambitious, but ethics and community traditionally has been the domain of religion and family. Trusting humanity professors and a few college credits to serve that role seems like you are asking too much.

Which is horrible, humanities are needed now more than ever. I am unable to count the number of tech and business grads who have no appreciation for ethics, or art, or community.

unsupp0rted 3y ago

> humanities are needed now more than ever Please elaborate

robocat 3y ago

So humanities are the only true moral compass for ethics and community. You seem to imply that tech and business grads are just evil.

DocTomoe 3y ago
The older I get, the more I would agree with that statement. Tech and business grads without a classical humanities side-education tend to become the worst people, hyperspecializinh on things that maximise profits at the cost of human suffering and environmental destruction.
- ryan93 3y ago
  How do people not understand selection? Regardless think of all the world’s warmongers. Almost none were engineers. All the colonizers were humanities guys. Hitler and his top guys were art and humanities guys. Every president who bombs the innocent has been a history or poli sci major.
  - pessimizer 3y ago
    Thatcher?
    - ryan93 3y ago
      Thatcher on the one hand Nazis and centuries of colonization on the other. I’ll take it
Spooky23 3y ago
Not evil, just ignorant. I’m an engineer, I work with engineers. As a profession, we tend to lack EQ and real understanding of social issues. A lot of the bad decisions that have had an outsized impact on society were naive decisions made by tech companies out of that ignorance.
- nemo44x 3y ago
  Yea, we need to train them that their opinions are wrong regarding whatever arbitrary thing the various elite classes think today. That their wrong think only gets in the way of the things we want.
  - Spooky23 3y ago
    Uninformed opinion is like an animal instinct — it means nothing. If your knowledge of philosophy mostly comes from Stocism memes, you don’t know much. The existence of widespread belief in reptilian overlords and other stupid shit is evidence of people hungry for understanding, but who lack the knowledge to overcome their ignorance.
  - flangola7 3y ago
    > whatever arbitrary thing the various elite classes think today No one here has said this. Stop hallucinating.
flangola7 3y ago
Many of them are evil, yes, some horrifically evil. I'm not implying it, I'm stating the fact directly. "Your men thought so hard about if they could they never stopped to think about if they should!"
AtlasBarfed 3y ago
Haha, let's delve into the humanities core: what is evil? Money is the root of all evil! Specifically, money is means where whatever evil was done to achieve some amassing of "wealth", once converted successfully into "money" it is washed of its sins and passed onward to successive generations with no exposure. This is a core of money combined with the limited liability corporation, the other major sociopath-washing mechanism of capitalism. Examples: - southern chattel slavery - oil/gas earnings with global warming - cigarette industry - prohibition-era criminal organizations, or really any outright organized criminals that manage to launder their money successfully - Chinese and Russian oligarchs exfiltrating their fortunes to the West The core component to the concept of money at the level of the elite is ethical and moral laundering.

nemo44x 3y ago

No they just don’t appreciate the ethics they say are the right ones, the art they say are the important ones, and the community they say is the better one. Most this crap is propagandized via the slow walk through the institutions. Scumbag grievance studies have bloated the humanities and have infected respectable studies like philosophy. They’ve become focused on what to think, not how to. If I wanted moralizing I’d go to church. At least they have the ethical decency to make paying optional to hear their opinions on how I should live.

fullshark 3y ago

I don't know about art, I think a lot of these grads you speak of are just myopic and ambitious, but ethics and community traditionally has been the domain of religion and family. Trusting humanity professors and a few college credits to serve that role seems like you are asking too much.